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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	checking idle RPM 08/16/16 at 18:05:26 Anybody know the best smart phone metronome app to check idle RPM?
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #1 - 08/16/16 at 18:20:38 Got a laptop? Just drag YouTube out to the garage if you can. Or pull your bike into the living room. Sorry, I don't use phone apps. My phone makes/receives phone calls.
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #2 - 08/16/16 at 18:33:37 You should be able to find metronome programs for PCs. I've used them in the past for music.
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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #3 - 08/16/16 at 21:48:11

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.rcteam.rcheliheadspeed&hl=en

RC Tachometer on Google Play $1.31 for the app for your phone...best part...IT WORKS. Very easy setup even for an old dude. Like the kids say "there's an app for that Uncle Chuck".

Now easy to set idle speed...even though the old ear wasn't too far off.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #4 - 08/16/16 at 22:33:50 If it even almost sounds like it's loping,it's too slow. Better high than low. Flat, level, operating temperature, first gear, and someone knows what speed it should idle at, and what tire size,,
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2772	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #5 - 08/17/16 at 04:47:16 Tire size? What?
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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #6 - 08/17/16 at 05:26:58

ohiomoto wrote on 08/17/16 at 04:47:16:

Tire size? What?

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Ohio, apparently one of the easiest ways to check your idle speed is to get your Cabbage warmed up to normal operating temperature, ride it on level pavement in first gear and it should ride at a particular speed without touching the throttle at all. But that's where tire size becomes important.

If you have larger tires, I would ASSUME that the speed would be greater than if your tires were stock. Or for some God forsaken reason, you actually wanted smaller tires on your Baby Boulevard, then it would ride slower with the same idle speed set up on your bike. Grin

For my standard 140/80-15 rear tire, I believe a good idle speed will push me along at 10MPH. But I'm still trying to search through older posts to be sure about those exact numbers. One of the more "seasoned" members could probably verify and/or correct me on the exact combination of tire size vs. speed.

Since I'm still a newbie, I've just got the general concept down so far. Like one of my favorite quotes from W. C. Fields says, "Don't trifle me with the details."

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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #7 - 08/17/16 at 05:38:19

Tire size really doesn't affect speed to much in 1st gear at idle speed.

Serowbots gear chart shows that in 1st gear the bike will be going 36.9 mph at 6,500 rpm. This translates into 5.7 mph for every 1,000 rpm.

So....for 1,000 rpm you should be going 5.7 mph, for 1,100 rpm you should be going 6.2 mph. The 140/90-15 tire only increases this to 6.0 mph at 1,000 rpm, and 6.6 mph for 1,100 rpm.

These numbers seem a little low from what I remember seeing posted previously.....I thought it was up around 9 mph that has been quoted in other threads.

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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #8 - 08/17/16 at 05:48:17

Dave wrote on 08/17/16 at 05:38:19:

Tire size really doesn't affect speed to much in 1st gear at idle speed.

Serowbots gear chart shows that in 1st gear the bike will be going 36.9 mph at 6,500 rpm. This translates into 5.7 mph for every 1,000 rpm.

So....for 1,000 rpm you should be going 5.7 mph, for 1,100 rpm you should be going 6.2 mph. The 140/90-15 tire only increases this to 6.0 mph at 1,000 rpm, and 6.6 mph for 1,100 rpm.

These numbers seem a little low from what I remember seeing posted previously.....I thought it was up around 9 mph that has been quoted in other threads.

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Ah, well then I was WAAAAAAAY off the mark. Thanks Dave.

Because going 10MPH, the chart shows that the idle speed would be close to 1600 RPM. That sounds much too fast. I need to take the time to check mine as well. I like the idea of using the YouTube video on my phone with some headphones. Hopefully, that can get me really close before I even step foot out of my driveway. Roll Eyes

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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #9 - 08/17/16 at 06:26:43

Tire size has no effect on the speedo reading,... only to actual speed...
This is why going up a step in size corrects the speedo error.

1,000rpm is about 6mph...
It will read the same regardless of tire size... ( but, that's too slow for the speedo to read accurately)...

Just make the engine purr,.. instead of lope...

Record your cat's purr... compare... Roll Eyes

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #10 - 08/17/16 at 06:33:37 Serowbot wrote on 08/17/16 at 06:26:43: Tire size has no effect on the speedo reading,... only to actual speed... Doh!......Too early for me to be that smart!
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Re: checking idle RPM
Reply #11 - 08/17/16 at 07:48:31

OUCH! And that's why I ask,,,
Okay, now that we've covered every possible variable and covered one that Isn't,
The idle RPM can be checked by idling across a good smooth place.

My idle RPM changes. If it's just been started, it's low, so, I twist the( notice how it's fat and knobby and easy to adjust? ) adjustment. It's not a
Set it
Forget it
Thing.
It's Okay to fiddle with it.
If you adjust it cold, it's gonna be fast once it's warmed up.
And versa visey..

That may not be so dramatic with a bone stock bike.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28661 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #12 - 08/17/16 at 09:42:42 One day a year,.. I manage to throw Dave a curve... There are 364 other days... ...
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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #13 - 08/17/16 at 10:12:06 I solved all the issues of idle adjustment, speed +/- with new gearing, etc. with a tachometer. And it sits in my line of sight so that I can keep my eyes on the road.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28661 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: checking idle RPM Reply #14 - 08/17/16 at 11:11:25 Cheater...
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