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Delo 400/Rotella oil thread (Read 352 times)
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08/16/16 at 15:11:53
I wasn't here for the original oil war , sounds like it was fun !
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I've got some Delo400, I think. Didn't use it 'cause it's supposed to have a bit of moly in it, probably no worse than Rotella Syn. now. That, and I don't think it's JASO-MA approved. Anybody have good success with Delo in their Savage?
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08/16/16 at 20:02:13
I run Dino Rotella with 1 oz ZDDP
Only cause so many here swear by it,makes me believe there is something to it !
However Delo400 is top grade oil, just as good or better than Rotella
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I like olive oil, extra virgin,cand Pam as a spray lube.
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I've been in other forums and seen Rotella T the highly touted oil. We are not alone.
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08/17/16 at 09:41:45
justin_o_guy2 wrote
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I've been in other forums and seen Rotella T the highly touted oil. We are not alone.
Yep..me too. The difference is that this forum included the data that showed why it works.....and why it is better for our engine. More importantly it showed why the other modern oils can (and are) damaging to the Savage.
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... and,.. if you say it right, it sounds Italian... so it must be fast...
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I like olive oil, extra virgin,cand Pam as a spray lube.
Yes sir I spray it on the cold grill of my weber then put grill over hot coals slap on the burgers and my burgers don't stick to the grill, sounds good burgers this weekend !
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Ok what does rotella have or not have that make if better ?
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Ok what does rotella have or not have that make if better ?
It has enough ZDDP to keep the cam and rockers healthy. Modern oils have about half the 1,200 ppm our engine needs.,,,the EPA wanted the ZDDP levels reduced to help keep the Oxygen Sensors healthy for longer periods of time.
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Oh ok , yet we still add more ZDDP ?
Cause the cam runs in aluminum ?
Side effects on wet clutches ?
Or cause it sounds Italian ?
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It is not the aluminum that suffers from low ZDDP levels....unless you run your idle speed too low and the oil pressure is not adequate.
The ZDDP protects the cam lobes and rocker arms from wear that occurs at the high pressure points. The ZDDP is a high pressure lubricant. We add to bump the level up to 1,400 ppm....just because some of us are a bit "enthusiastic"....1,200 ppm is most likely OK.
(The photos are from an engine that was idled on the sidestand....but that is what a damaged cam and damaged rocker looks like....I can post some better photos that are damaged rockers from using a low ZDDP, as I have plenty of them).
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08/17/16 at 15:11:44
Keep my idle up a bit and don't let it idle on the side stand
What about effects on clutch ?
Once I used Cat cam lube on a cam in a xr200r took six oil changes before clutch would work , still had to replace the plates
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The ZDDP has no effect on the clutch....the things that bother the clutch are the Friction Modifiers, like Moly.
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Tanx fo splaining dat to me , Dave
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Makes perfect sense , I will revise my statement
Delo400 is top grade oil for diesels !!!
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