cheapnewb24 wrote on 08/18/16 at 11:07:31:


Back when American Police osifers were restricted to revolvers, the round of choice in most osifer's revolvers was the venerable 125 grain .357 magnum at a nominal 1550 fps, a cartridge developed before I was born
Other cartridges have been developed since then, some supposedly 'better', but the 125 grain .357 achieves on shot stops in 96% of all center mass hits
Guess what cartrige a home invader will be shot with invading my home?
obsessing over 'better' or 'cheaper' is just too tiring, with this round, I have the best known manstopper there is, with no brain cramps
I like Rotella for the same reason, there are newer oils, supposedly 'better' oils, but Rotella works with no brain cramps, and has pretty much forever

I think a front door with a little hole, through which you could run a potential home invader through with a sword, would be handy. Of course it would need a one way device to keep them doing the same to you, and  to keep the breeze out. Plus, rotella should cost $90 a bottle and have a picture of a racing motorbike on it to make it an accceptable Motorcycle engine oil.

WOW.....I have seen oil threads get into some heated discussion before - but this is the first time I have seen one that evolved into the use of pistols, swords and shotguns!

Launching a aimless scud missle your way, don't try to run, best off standing still with a scud heading your way, chances are it will miss.
You hope !
Have been using Casrol GTX 15/40 & 20/50 in my bikes for close to 40 years without any oil related failures this oil is a favorite in Europe & around the world. This is best bang for your buck oil I have ever used. Liquid gold if some ZDDP is added !
Stand or Run ? Incoming !

Ruttly, give us the VOA for the exact Castrol GTX oil you are referring to.

Next, tell us the cost per quart.

In doing so you are going to figure out that Castrol GTX is a car oil, currently running under SAE SN requirements and although it may have been a significant enough oil 16 years ago, right now it is just as neutered as any other car oil.

Don't get confused by the old Castrol Racing oil, that had lots of good stuff (or it used to have) but it also lacked a detergent package and long durability as it was intended to be dumped at the end of the race.    And Castrol Racing oil was a dino oil that cost as much as a synthetic costs now days.

Two issues with trying to war any Castrol products, which one of the 5-8 different types are you really talking about, and they all actually cost more than Rotella products cost (Walmart sells both, you know).

Who owns / bottles Castrol now that it is just a brand name on a bottle?

Synopsis of web search 8/20/16

British Petroleum (BP) controls the bottling of the Castrol brand name, and what is actually in the bottle comes off of any bottling facility that they chose to ship the bottles to as the oil is bottled regionally, world-wide.  

There are bottling codes and lot numbers on the bottles themselves that can trace back to the bottling plant that did that particular bottle.    An example of part of a bottle code is the bottling plant itself.  (WPP = Warren Petroleum Products for example)   Type your bottle code into your browser and see what it can find out for you.

Most volume produced commercial oil is treated this way, with an additives spec sheet on file at a commercial bottling plant that bottles many different brand names during a normal working week.   No claims are made for the base oil used in such cases, as it actually changes (but meets a standard base oil requirement of course) according to what is available that month at the best cost.

As such Castrol or Amoco or BP (same same actually) oil is produced locally according to the local regulations and laws.   In America, this is SAE SN oil and Castrol meets this SN requirement all the way.

In short, it is dino car oil, "regional generic" to a fair degree.   All the Castrol "liquid engineering" stuff on the bottle is advertising and promotion.   Can contain large amounts of sulfur in the base oil (with more added as an additive) which gets either blessed or boned depending on who is writing the review.

Largest US investor is Morgan Investments.

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/19/16 at 11:57:05:

I am drooling over that gun and load, OF, but
the .44 magnum also has a lot more energy than the 125 grain .357 magnum, but, for some reason, does not score as high on the 'one shot stop' tabel as the .357, ain't that odd?
the old cop load works, don't need 'better'  
in most states, handloads in a defensive pistol will get you on the wrong side of a jury, so I stick with factory loads
The .40 has some good factory loads, too, almost as good as my old standby cop gun, but they cost more per box, here in my area, so the .357 still gets the 'bang for the buck' title when you compare apples to apples
The 125gr .357 actually over penetrates less frequently than the .38 +p hollowpoints, though the 158gr LSWCHP is a good choice in a .38 caliber

Batman, my front door is 4 inches from my bed, as i live, currently, in a 16x8 travel trailer, I wouldn't have time to get a shotgun in action  

Moly in guns has a mixed history, mostly because some folks swear they got corrosion that existed as a unseen surprise and said corrosion had extended itself under the moly coating of the lands and grooves.

Cubic boron nitride does the same sort of beneficial things moly did in a gun but it is non-hydroscopic.  Color is white, coated barrel is essentially a clear coating as opposed to the very dark coating from moly.  

Neither is needed in a 38 special, a gun that originally shot lead bullets at moderate velocity.