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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Delo 400/Rotella oil thread 08/16/16 at 15:11:53 I wasn't here for the original oil war , sounds like it was fun ! Delo400 Rules Don't ask me what's in my Suzuki
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #1 - 08/16/16 at 15:15:58 I've got some Delo400, I think. Didn't use it 'cause it's supposed to have a bit of moly in it, probably no worse than Rotella Syn. now. That, and I don't think it's JASO-MA approved. Anybody have good success with Delo in their Savage? Ruttly, what's in your Suzuki?
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #2 - 08/16/16 at 20:02:13 I run Dino Rotella with 1 oz ZDDP Only cause so many here swear by it,makes me believe there is something to it ! However Delo400 is top grade oil, just as good or better than Rotella
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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #3 - 08/17/16 at 09:11:20 I like olive oil, extra virgin,cand Pam as a spray lube.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #4 - 08/17/16 at 09:26:50 I've been in other forums and seen Rotella T the highly touted oil. We are not alone.
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Reply #5 - 08/17/16 at 09:41:45

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/17/16 at 09:26:50:

I've been in other forums and seen Rotella T the highly touted oil. We are not alone.

Yep..me too. The difference is that this forum included the data that showed why it works.....and why it is better for our engine. More importantly it showed why the other modern oils can (and are) damaging to the Savage.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #6 - 08/17/16 at 09:50:01 ... and,.. if you say it right, it sounds Italian... so it must be fast... Shealla Rrrotella... roll the R... very importante...
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #7 - 08/17/16 at 12:02:46 SavageMan99 wrote on 08/17/16 at 09:11:20: I like olive oil, extra virgin,cand Pam as a spray lube. Yes sir I spray it on the cold grill of my weber then put grill over hot coals slap on the burgers and my burgers don't stick to the grill, sounds good burgers this weekend !
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #8 - 08/17/16 at 12:04:58 Ok what does rotella have or not have that make if better ?
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Reply #9 - 08/17/16 at 12:15:33

Ruttly wrote on 08/17/16 at 12:04:58:

Ok what does rotella have or not have that make if better ?

It has enough ZDDP to keep the cam and rockers healthy. Modern oils have about half the 1,200 ppm our engine needs.,,,the EPA wanted the ZDDP levels reduced to help keep the Oxygen Sensors healthy for longer periods of time.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #10 - 08/17/16 at 12:25:06 Oh ok , yet we still add more ZDDP ? Cause the cam runs in aluminum ? Side effects on wet clutches ? Or cause it sounds Italian ?
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Reply #11 - 08/17/16 at 12:40:00

It is not the aluminum that suffers from low ZDDP levels....unless you run your idle speed too low and the oil pressure is not adequate.

The ZDDP protects the cam lobes and rocker arms from wear that occurs at the high pressure points. The ZDDP is a high pressure lubricant. We add to bump the level up to 1,400 ppm....just because some of us are a bit "enthusiastic"....1,200 ppm is most likely OK.

(The photos are from an engine that was idled on the sidestand....but that is what a damaged cam and damaged rocker looks like....I can post some better photos that are damaged rockers from using a low ZDDP, as I have plenty of them).

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #12 - 08/17/16 at 15:11:44 Keep my idle up a bit and don't let it idle on the side stand What about effects on clutch ? Once I used Cat cam lube on a cam in a xr200r took six oil changes before clutch would work , still had to replace the plates
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #13 - 08/17/16 at 18:08:34 The ZDDP has no effect on the clutch....the things that bother the clutch are the Friction Modifiers, like Moly.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5106 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Rubber Duck Down Reply #14 - 08/17/16 at 20:01:46 Tanx fo splaining dat to me , Dave Spelling from JOGs dictionary Makes perfect sense , I will revise my statement Delo400 is top grade oil for diesels !!!
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