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Reply #60 - 08/07/16 at 07:28:13
 
And got what service life?

How did you ride? Hard acceleration is tough on them, and much tougher if they are dirty, right?
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Reply #61 - 08/07/16 at 09:20:30
 
O ring chains are alright I guess. It would be great if they were cheaper, though. I found some cheap no-namer chains. Do you think they'll hold up?

Here's a bikemaster chain-- even cheaper than EK  Do ya think it'll hold up? Bikemaster seems to be the cheapest brand that's halfway decent with anything. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BikeMaster-530x120-Links-Standard-Series-non-Oring-Na...

JT makes 520 sprockets to fit. I'm pretty sure.  Price seems alright, though I haven't found quite as good deals on the front sprockets in particular. Depending on the ratio, it will probably be a tight race.  JTF512 and JTR1825 for 520.  JTF513 and JTR816 for 530. Only problem is that JT doesn't make the JTF 512 (520) in 18 tooth. I had the 16, 17, and 18 in mind.

How many guys think 520 is a better shot for my use than 530? Vice versa?
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Reply #62 - 08/07/16 at 09:34:07
 
I tend to gravitate toward prime tooth numbers (preferrably 47) Is it worth paying 5-10 dollars extra for that number?) Will it really make that much difference in the life of the sprocket? Do prime numbers matter much for the front sprocket? The chain itself? I gather that the rear lasts longer than the front. Although many replace them as a set, the rear sometimes lives long enough to be reused it seems.
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Reply #63 - 08/07/16 at 09:38:47
 
Huh????... Huh
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Reply #64 - 08/07/16 at 09:41:11
 
http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-wheels-and-final-drive...

Interesting deal. I'd have to piece together two of them, though.  Undecided Not sure that's a smart idea.
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Reply #65 - 08/07/16 at 09:41:29
 
Prime numbers of teeth on the sprockets tend to not wear a pattern as much. Every tooth of the sprocket contacts every link of the chain eventually. You get much more even wear.
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Reply #66 - 08/07/16 at 09:49:48
 
Another Bikemaster 530 chain lists the strength. It's a bit weaker than the EK chain and rated at 250cc.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BikeMaster-530-X-120-530-Standard-Chain-120-Links-Nat...
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Reply #67 - 08/07/16 at 09:54:36
 
Ahh... Now here's one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/530HX120-Bikemaster-530H-X-120-Chain-/272218459851?ha...

Heavy duty... stronger than the EK, I think. And around 5 bucks cheaper too.

http://www.bikemaster.com/530h-heavy-duty-precision-roller-chain.html






Here's a good deal on oring chain. Just have to buy a master to go with it. By that time it'll be fairly close to 50 bucks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bikemaster-ATV-530-BM0R-Series-9-700lbs-Tensile-Stren...
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Reply #68 - 08/07/16 at 10:07:53
 
Here's a cheap RK chain http://www.ebay.com/itm/RK-Chains-530x120-Links-M-Standard-Series-non-Oring-N...

Rated lower tensile strength than the heavy duty chinese bikemaster.  But it's "Japanese" steel.  Huh Wear resistance maybe?
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Reply #69 - 08/07/16 at 10:12:03
 
This looks like a great deal for a 520H bikemaster chain, but I doubt it has a master link.

no box it seems

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=bikemaster+520h+120&_s...

Bikemaster advertises their 520H to be even stronger than their 530H.  Huh

http://www.bikemaster.com/chain/520h-heavy-duty-precision-roller-chain.html

http://www.bikemaster.com/530h-heavy-duty-precision-roller-chain.html
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Reply #70 - 08/07/16 at 10:21:52
 
There it is... The EK that was cheaper (among EK's). I thought there was at least one there yesterday. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EK-Chain-530-120-530-Standard-Series-Chain-120-Links-...
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Reply #71 - 08/07/16 at 10:43:02
 
Here's a really cheap sprocket, But it's not a prime number and won't wear as well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/JT-Sprockets-Steel-Rear-Sprocket-48T-520-Suzuki-GN400...



pUAAOSwCQNWegfq&vxp=mtr" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/JT-Sprockets-520-Steel-Rear-Sprocket-47T-Black-JTR1825-47-/321792357359?hash=item4aec51b3ef:gShockedpUAAOSwCQNWegfq&vxp=mtr

$24.99 vs $32.70  I wonder if that wear patter is worth the extra dollars. But then, if I get 530, it will be different anyway. 47t sprockets tend to run a little higher anyway. Undecided


Black sprocket ought to look good with silver.  Undecided
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Reply #72 - 08/07/16 at 10:49:17
 
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Reply #73 - 08/07/16 at 10:57:55
 
Well, it looks like.... from a quick look at this, it's not about the sprocket tooth count as much as it is the combination of tooth count AND link count, which I probably won't know till I get it mounted. So... Maybe the tooth count obsession is meaningless? It turns out... Nope... it's not meaningless. The prime numbers, like 17/47 will give an optimal wear pattern, but it seems as though the other side of the story is not completely known. The nonprime sizes depend upon the number of links and will always be less than the optimum provided by a prime tooth count.

Wear - The Theory

For a non-prime count, 46 does rather well under all conditions. There are some other interesting things. Take a look. Getting the right combination, though.  Undecided
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Reply #74 - 08/07/16 at 11:55:15
 
Any thoughts on all this?

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