oy, those sealed chains are troublesome

Yeah, the Chains are troublesome.. I will make it a point to avoid posts in the future. I'm sure you don't need my help.

cheapnewb24 wrote on 08/06/16 at 13:18:16:

Yes but I can't be bothered explaining it.

Looked up that Scottoiler. $139 is a substantial amount of money. There are some homebrew designs out there. Here's one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb01cxFS1bw

The point was the trouble of pressing the master link.

They are "troublesome" in a way. O-ring chains are higher friction. They don't like to be pressure washed. They don't like solvents that hurt rubber. They don't like penetrating oil. They are supposedly "ruined" if one oring is breached.

Don't like this--Don't like that. picky, picky, picky. They supposedly last longer, but there's a tradeoff. High tech = picky. Then there's the expense. Perhaps, a better description is that they're picky. Serowbot didn't seem to like them. However, sealed chains are actually marketed toward dirty conditions, so....  

Roller chains seem simpler. clean and oil, rinse and repeat. There's probably a bit more to it, but you get the picture. If it gets dirt in there, take it off and wash it in kerosene, oil again, rinse and repeat. How dumber can you get... in a good way?

Maybe I was going along with Serowbot too. He acted like they were trouble, and add the other stuff, so....

I like something that is no worries. Why do you think I have a beat up Savage? Well...part of the reason, anyway.



Any opinions on ZDDP?

Does this sound troublesome?
Serowbot wrote on 08/05/16 at 14:21:35:



Or this?

Serowbot wrote on 08/06/16 at 09:30:56:



But then, I gather that sealed chains are actually marketed toward dirty conditions, so....

cheapnewb24 wrote on 08/06/16 at 15:29:06:


You keep missing the point. With a sealed chain, you still wash it with kerosene, lubricate, rinse and repeat. The difference is you only need to clean the outside of the chain. The inside stays clean and lubricated so no need to go to town with the remove, soak blah blah. Kerosene won't hurt the orings or dissolve the lubricant away. As for pressure washing, only an idiot would do that to a sealed OR standard chain (no offense to all the idiots out there, you're great).
Cleaning a sealed chain is easy. You just grab a $2 chain brush from ebay, a tin of kero and have at it.

Funny thing.... my ninja 300 has an O-ring chain.....
I've cleaned it every two months for 3 years now, with WD40 and a toothpick style wire brush.
It's got 10,000 miles plus on it... no wear on the sprocket or chain.
I've tightened it regularly every six months, and maybe a couple times after long trips.
I think it would be better if we would suggest one thing here.....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE THEN DON'T FIX IT!

Your style of maintenance has me thinking you follow this method..... If it ain't broke, fix it til it is!.......

I'm thinking if i see your name on a post from now on... i'm just going to not read it