HovisPresley wrote on 08/04/16 at 16:57:11:


Careful..... I can feel a squeeze across the pond even  

Serowbot wrote on 08/04/16 at 22:18:10:


Yes, you are right, I DID read that as you were sorry for him, my bad....
But then you should see where our thinking is when it comes to folks who appear to only choose a candidate predicated on which letter they have after their name, ignoring the very same charge and arguments they make against the other.

I too am baffled at Trump supporters, even those I visited with in SoCal, my kids, etc.
Sure, I get the HOPE, CHANGE, DREAMS, part, and I get the SICK & TIRED part, I think Robert Reich nailed it in that article I posted, that my friends on the right discount because of his associations, however, that changes nothing.
There is a major underlining movement to tumble the status quo, the elitist, aristocracy, we have presently.
I think the stickler in this is that it is coming at a time that our general populations is changing ethnicity too.
The left have made many arguments about race and labeling, etc, yet that is exactly how they try and manage this new element in order to capitalize on it.....
And it is seems folks don't trust them, rightly so, if you use the Black race as any indicator of how the left delivers....
I think the "harsh" talk is what people find appealing, not the PC stuff.
Sometimes you must use the truth ( not that Trump has any frickin idea what that is ) to get results and HOPEFULLY CHANGE....
Like calling a fat person FAT, instead of physically caloric challenged, enabling never works.....

Once we get REAL, maybe, perhaps, we can fix some stuff, like education, economics, justice, etc...

This is a time where Kennedy's speak about what we can do for our country, NOT, what it can do for us.....
Forgetting what the other prays to, or not, eats, drives, marries, gender, skin color, etc....
Those are all side shows outside the BIG tent, where the really good stuff is on display  

Maybe, just maybe, the NEW influences of others from around the globe, and here at home, might help in finding a way back to being civilized, about caring, and appreciation, and supporting, one another, its possible, for currently this energy will destroy us, of that I'm certain....

OK, let her rip, lets keep blaming and assigning fault, you guys can keep your misery, I'm opting out    

PS: let me add this one personal observation from my own experience how OTHERS we might see as outsiders, or threats, can actually teach us something, if we dare open our eyes and mind.

I work for a major aircraft corporation, it hires a extremely diverse workforce, after 50 years of living/working, this was a new environment for me.
I have befriended so many other ethnic folks, than myself, from around the world, it has been an amazing learning, I would have never got, understood, otherwise.
I will talk about my Muslim friends.
They are outgoing and very friendly, and DON'T try and persuade me, or rip my beliefs, heck no, we share and find commonalities....
Now here is the fun part, they are afforded the opportunity at work to stop and pray, according to their faith.
Will this freedom OF religion allowed them inadvertently allow Christians to do the same, OR, will it reveal the hypocrisy of some here in our nation?

C'mon Webby, trump is trumps worst enemy....
No one makes him udder such nonsense but himself.

We can talk policies, yes, we can talk failures, yes.
But it takes someone who is stable to bring about a consensus and hopefully change.
The people have weighed in on Obama, he has made history in the wrong way.
Hillary was forced to use him, when in reality her campaign against him as a candidate is prolly a lot more accurate to what she thinks of him.
But she can't break that unfavorable ceiling and will have to muster as many votes as she can, by whoever she can, to carry it off. And it appears she worked a deal with trump already  

Go 3rd party, if all disenfranchised voters united under a third ticket, history would be made and it will also squash the grip and hold of the media and two party system they all capitalize upon!

You're either incredibly stupid, or coasting into weekend mode and don't want to think too hard! I'm pretty sure its the latter which is fine cause that's where I am now. I'm not going into all the critical ways we no longer bear the slightest resemblance to our former sovereign. Instead, I've got a few more work things to do them I'm heading to store to pick out meat for a weekend BBQ.

Till next week. (assuming Hopey-change doesn't destroy us by then....)

Interestingly, your 'right to bear arms' was previously an English thing, your Bill of Rights was based on ours....
(I had to explain to JoG recently about baseball's origins)

But as they say in Louisiana, Missouri and elsewhere in the USA:
"Viva la difference"

PS. The Italians make the best bread  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/05/16 at 10:26:30:

....ahhhh,...(cough), bullshit (cough,..cough)... ...

Have you ever even been out of Texas?...

I've spent 8 or 10 years in Europe... I was born there,..  I have family there.
I think I have a little better understanding than you...

HovisPresley wrote on 08/05/16 at 12:55:38:


I won't argue with you on that one.  It doesn't get any better than rustic Italian bread, high quality olive oil, and freshly grated romano cheese.  

Best regards,