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08/02/16 at 19:44:27
 
If I use foreign currency to buy stolen goods, for bribe an official, judge, etc....
I am not breaking the law, right?

Well here, read this story from the Wall Street Journal, that might help explain the context of my question.
I will "bold" the text to which I am confused about, how this makes it ok....


The U.S. government airlifted the equivalent of $400 million to Iran this past January, which occurred as four detained Americans were released by Tehran, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The cash transfer was the first installment paid in a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran to resolve a failed 1979 arms deal dating from just before the Iranian Revolution.

State Department spokesman John Kirby denied the cash transfer was done to secure the release of the four Americans.

The negotiations over the [arms deal] settlement ... were completely separate from the discussions about returning our American citizens home," Kirby said in a statement. "Not only were the two negotiations separate, they were conducted by different teams on each side."

"The funds that were transferred to Iran were related solely to the settlement of a long-standing claim at the U.S.-Iran Claims Tribunal at The Hague," Kirby's statement concluded.

However, the Journal says U.S. officials acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible.

The Journal also reported that President Barack Obama did not disclose the $400 million cash payment when he announced Jan. 17 that the arms deal dispute had been resolved. The administration has not disclosed how the $1.7 billion was paid, except to say it was not paid in dollars.

The cash flown to Iran consisted of euros, Swiss francs, and other currencies because U.S. law forbids transacting American dollars with Iran.

Since the cash was airlifted, Iran's Revolutionary Guard has arrested two more Iranian-Americans. Tehran has also detained dual-nationals from France, Canada and the U.K. in recent months.

Love Kirby's answer about why they didn't pay to release prisoners: The negotiations over the [arms deal] settlement ... were completely separate from the discussions about returning our American citizens home," Kirby said in a statement. "Not only were the two negotiations separate, they were conducted by different teams on each side."

Oh sure..... what bridge are you selling Kirby?  Grin

Man, this stuff is past ripe, if only this was a republican president, we would be beating the crap daily about this stuff and hopefully putting the insanity to an end  Embarrassed
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Reply #1 - 08/02/16 at 20:04:59
 
You GOT THAT from a Right Wing,Conspiracy Theory source!
It's a lot of crap. You're schizophrenic!
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Reply #2 - 08/02/16 at 22:37:19
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/02/16 at 20:04:59:
You GOT THAT from a Right Wing,Conspiracy Theory source!
It's a lot of crap. You're schizophrenic!

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Reply #3 - 08/03/16 at 07:54:47
 
Bot, it's looking like it's true enough, of course, expecting to see it on CNN, ehhh, might not happen...
It's such a great trick, playing the
Source Bias game. Who Didn't believe that the Iraqi soldiers were throwing babies out of incubators? I believed it. And she was a liar.

Gee, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

NOBODY knew that she was the daughter of some ambassador or something? She was not in a hospital, working with babies. She was just telling a lie, getting support for a war.

Do you understand yet?

So, how much truth Do we actually get?
And, how Much of That TRUTH is delivered in a way that makes it easy to dismiss?

Bot, if it's a lie, where did it originate?
What's the purpose?
If I believe that article, I'M some kinda lunatic.

If you DON'T believe it, then You're a Conspiracy Theorist.
Someone made it up, just to make someone look bad, and look how many people are disseminating it,, ohh, it's a Huge Conspiracy..
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Reply #4 - 08/03/16 at 08:05:45
 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-147...

So, the Wall Street Journal is now a right wing conspiracy theory source ?

Guess only CNN and MSNBC are real journalism sources now Roll Eyes
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It's not Really a WSJ article, you see. It's been dummied up to
Look like that.
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justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/03/16 at 08:12:43:
It's not Really a WSJ article, you see. It's been dummied up to
Look like that.


Good job too. Even managed to get the phony story into all the print copies !!  Grin
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Reply #7 - 08/03/16 at 08:40:28
 
Well now, that really is a noteworthy effort..
What a grand conspiracy This is starting to look like.
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Reply #8 - 08/03/16 at 09:15:22
 
You do realize that we are holding over $100 billion of Iran’s assets?...
That's billion with a B...
This is Iran’s money,...

Their GDP is $400 billion... with a B... Billion...

Bribing them with $400 million, is like me telling you, I'll give you a dime if you smash a pie in your face.
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Reply #9 - 08/03/16 at 09:32:54
 
What does it cost to buy a politician in America? What's Our GDP? You must work hard to be able to understand everything you do, the way you do, when it's just so much easier to see what is going on. Millions of dollars matter. Whose it Is is immaterial.
The GDP doesn't matter, the people being bribed aren't able to
Quietly, Discretely GET hold of that kinda money, can they?

The mental gymnastics required to be able to pretend that the story doesn't mean anything is Olympic Gold worthy.
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