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Reply #15 - 07/15/16 at 09:20:53
 
JOG,.. you site local gun laws as proof that a national one won't work...

I site nations where it has...

If you hide the cookies from the kids... they will find them...
If you don't have any cookies, they won't...

Simple enough?...
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Reply #16 - 07/15/16 at 09:22:33
 




A gun ban will be effective even though banning alcohol and drugs failed BECAUSE __________________________.

Please do fill in the blank.
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Reply #17 - 07/15/16 at 09:28:10
 
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Reply #18 - 07/15/16 at 09:31:21
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/15/16 at 09:20:53:
JOG,.. you site local gun laws as proof that a national one won't work...

I site nations where it has...

If you hide the cookies from the kids... they will find them...
If you don't have any cookies, they won't...

Simple enough?...


Hello! McFly!...... if you had 300 million cookies in the house, you can outlaw them all you want, but the kids are still gonna find them....

And we'll continue on in your bad metaphor, cookies disappear after you eat them, guns don't.


Pick a better metaphor if you can find one.
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Reply #19 - 07/15/16 at 09:48:37
 
Even idiots can MAKE a cookie.

Again, alcohol and drugs BOTH BANNED,  And how did that work out?

Yet, even though we have these two things that the government fought to stamp out , it never WORKED.

And what happens when a cop gets mugged and his gun stolen?
That gun takes other cops out and Their guns stolen.

You're smoking crack if you believe a gun ban will work in America. People have, hell I have, enough stuff to build a one shot, piece of crap gun. But it would be enough to be able to make someone hand over Their gun. A home made, black powder pistol, and homemade powder... I could get a real gun...


Since drugs are smuggled into America by some very sophisticated ways, tunnels, drone drops, why would guns Not be? You simply aren't Thinking. You're so determined that it's a good idea to Ban guns that you're unwilling to see that it's simply not feasible to Eliminate them. And bad guys will be who wants them badly enough to risk the potential penalty for having them.


Suggest to a lefty that we deport the illegals and they laugh,, Ohh, silly boy, you know what an impossible task it would be to locate and ship all of those people?

But, rounding up 300,000,000 guns, well, nuts, no problem, just pass a  law.


LMFAO..



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/05/guns-in-the-united-sta...


Looks like a scientific wild guess of around 357 million guns..

But, pass a law and they disappear.
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Reply #20 - 07/15/16 at 10:01:36
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/15/16 at 09:22:33:
A gun ban will be effective even though banning alcohol and drugs failed BECAUSE __________________________.

Please do fill in the blank.

...because it has in every other civilized nation in the world...

You're saying,..."It can't be done, It can't be done, It can't be done, "...
while surrounded by scores of successful examples...
.. but we're lucky,... we're not like those countries, we have the 2nd amendment...
Now is when you start pounding the 2nd amendment... because the facts are against you...
Your 2nd amendment rights cost 300,000 American lives per decade...
Fair trade off?...  300,000 dead people would beg to differ ... Huh
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Reply #21 - 07/15/16 at 10:10:59
 
You Believe guns can be eliminated from AMERICA, but drugs can't? We are not those other places. If drugs are unstoppable, then why would you believe Guns are? And you Know just how impossible it would be to find and export the illegals, but guns, all 350 MILLION of them, well, THAT'S not laughable?

Freedom costs,, sorry for the dead... you want to stop death?
Lookvat the medical crap, food, heart disease,

Swallow the camel, strain out the gnat.
Other people's words swim through the minds of the confused.
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Reply #22 - 07/15/16 at 10:19:35
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/15/16 at 10:10:59:
Swallow the camel, strain out the gnat.

Your argument sucks,... but I like that bit...
Very Texas... Cool

How 'bout we truce this topic... it can go on endless... Huh
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Reply #23 - 07/15/16 at 10:22:20
 
By the way, here's what those poor refugees just looking for a place to raise their families did in Paris. Sorry buddy, but no Muslims should be let in this country starting immediately.

Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castatrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disembowelled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed by Daesh or Islamic state for propaganda. As such, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families
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Reply #24 - 07/15/16 at 10:31:02
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/15/16 at 10:19:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/15/16 at 10:10:59:
Swallow the camel, strain out the gnat.

Your argument sucks,... but I like that bit...
Very Texas... Cool

How 'bout we truce this topic... it can go on endless... Huh


How  about we do something we never do, take one section of the argument and carry it to its logical conclusion.

you want greater gun control because you look at the crime rate with gins in other countries and say if we could control our guns, we could be just like that. OK fine. Let's stay focused on just that and nothing else.

jog  and I are pretty much on the same page here.

Our retort  to you would be twofold. Jog, feel free to amend.

1)  there are already 300,000,000+ guns in this country so how are you going to control them?  is it your plan to ask for guns to be turned in? I have five, are you going to pass a law that says I can only have one?

2)  we would say gun control is only effective on those unlikely to commit a gun crime to begin with. If I was forced to register my weapon or turn it over or turn in extended magazines, I probably would because I'm a law-abiding citizen. However Johnny-crack-seller is not going to do that. So my question to you is what evidence can offer that if stricter gun controls were put in place, that those most likely to use guns in a crime would be affected to the degree that gun crimes would be reduced?
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Reply #25 - 07/15/16 at 10:37:23
 
Maybe quit selling bullets...
...more specifically, primers... Undecided
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Reply #26 - 07/15/16 at 10:41:28
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/15/16 at 10:22:20:
Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castatrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disembowelled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed by Daesh or Islamic state for propaganda. As such, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families

You feel compassion toward these victims... but not enough to risk helping them...
Isn't that a bit "pussified"?...
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Reply #27 - 07/15/16 at 10:50:31
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/15/16 at 10:37:23:
Maybe quit selling bullets...
...more specifically, primers... Undecided


okay, thats a start.
So how long would it take to make an impact in gun deaths?
how could you get around the court challenges?
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You feel compassion toward these victims... but not enough to risk helping them...
Isn't that a bit "pussified"?...

How am I not helping them? not sure what you mean.
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Reply #29 - 07/15/16 at 10:55:04
 
We could do it like Australia did... however that was...
...no need to reinvent the wheel...

There will be no court challenges when I am king... Grin
Seriously, if it were made the law of the land,...  what court challenges?...
Courts uphold the law, they don't make it...

We outlawed sawed-off shotguns,.. now there aren't any... also brass knuckles.. You can't buy'um...
I suppose there still are some... but they are illegal, and hard to find.

Not sayin' I have a perfect solution,... but let's do somethin' to make this situation better instead of worse...

PS.. I own 7 guns myself...(I went on a kick for a while)...
I'm kinda' over it now... Ammo is too pricey...

Hmmm?... charge $1,000 per bullet?... boon to tax revenue... solve the debt... Grin
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