...the candlestick-maker,...

I won'r serve you,... because you're black... Hispanic, Asian....
...because you're Jewish...
... because you're gay...
.. because you're a woman,.. a man...
...too young,.. old...
.. because you're a gun owner,.. fat,.. ugly...  an not a very nice person,.. an ex of my girlfriend,.. a Brexit supporter... a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist,...  Nephilim,   supporter...

Do you want a list of prejudices that are allowed and dis-allowed...
... or do want all American citizens to have the right to be served?...

Should prejudice be legislated?,.. or abolished?...

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.


--Steve

If you own a business but choose to Not engage in commerce with some people for whatever reason, then you're passing up profits And risking the ire of those people's friends, causing further reductions in profits. Anyone smart enough to Be in business should understand that. So, people who are in business are firstly trying to Stay in business. They WANT to make money.  So, when they refuse the opportunity to sell, you can bet THEY believe they have a good reason.

Prejudice? Or Discrimination?

The baker didn't Pre Judge anything... When they want two men on the cake,  the judging is done.

Discrimination, we all discriminate daily.

I've explained this several times. What do you not get?

Is there anyone who you would feel so disgusted doing business with that you would choose a losing legal battle Rather than contract with them? What conviction! Agree or not, such strong belief is commendable.

Forcing someone to be even a peripheral part of a religious ceremony that goes against their religious beliefs,,  THAT'S the America that you want?
The First Amendment guarantees our right to freedom of religion AND the right to practice/express it anywhere, anytime,,  


But, the baker is to be legally Forced not only to Not honor His beliefs, but to desecrate them, IN HIS OWN BAKERY?

That crack you made

Works for me..

Pissed me off, but helped me understand. I've seen a pattern.
I EXPLAIN thought processes, lay out logical arguments, and when you see that you don't have anything to counter you just come back with whatever you feel like and pretend you Don't need to think about what I said.
It's looking to me like you've adopted someone else's talking points rather than rationally concluding much of anything . Looks like you've got quite a few
shoulds and ottas
making your decisions. Should and otta, in and of themselves, aren't bad, but you Really should consider private property and religious freedom of people.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/13/16 at 06:56:11:

Let's make America Great Again... like it used to be...????

Ray, the market eventually settles and decides.

For instance, I will keep seeing my PCP opposed to a back-alley doctor who is willing to inject Fix-A-Flat into patients.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2904065/Transgender-toxic-tush-doctor...


--Steve

I believe you should be able to deny service if you can show/redirect them to equal service.
Or no more than a basic service should be required otherwise.
You may need to provide a cake, but not required to put "Happy buggery" on it if that offends you.

Gee, did I get censored again??????

I get it you guys, I do, BUT, unlike the surperior bot and the liberals, I come at it from a practical point of view.
I work in commercial aviation and we do need a guide line, not so much the FAA per se, but a standard.
Now the bleeding hearts would say it's not fair that a vendor making AC parts is not represented by a certain segment of society, and that's wrong.
So, they demand this overlooked group gets a contract first and foremost based on that criteria and NOT their ability to manufacture a part that can meet the build standards....
So which " state " oversight/program should prevail?

The moment you let faith/belief, etc, into the equation as a mitigating factor, you just opened a flood gate that all will try and pass through....
It's that simple, the color of their twang or where they stuck it I don't care...
It's a dead horse!

Here's my take on all of it, rather simply, and similar to why a local private school refuses to take one dime from government programs they COULD partake in.

If you pay your business takes and license fees and operate honestly as a business following all of the business rules. etc. and you take in NO government benefits such as small business grants, special tax breaks because you are a minority or female, etc. and pay your fair share, then the government should have NO say so in how you run your business. You should have the right to refuse service to anyone (aside from the key issues such as race, sex, etc.) for any reason. Not saying it's right, but it's YOUR business to grow or crash into the ground.