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Broke this within first 5 minutes after purchase
06/10/16 at 14:49:55

Hi,

I have very stupid and beginners question, hope you will forgive me. I recently bought my very first own bike, used Savage Ryca CS1 build, and within 5 minutes after purchase I broke the metal "connector" between the very front pedal and engine - please see images attached. Problem is, I don't even know what it is, and don't even know how it happened? I checked both manual and parts list and couldn't find it. Bike runs well, without problems, so it seems.

Therefore my questions is: What is that? How can I replace it?

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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1163 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #1 - 06/10/16 at 14:57:23 Looks like a manual decompression lever. You'll get some good answers here real soon.
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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #2 - 06/10/16 at 15:04:17 I would contact RYCA and send them pictures of the entire decomp rod and links. They should have parts for it. RYCA.com
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kecuki YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 21 San Francisco, CA	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #3 - 06/10/16 at 15:05:35 Tocsik wrote on 06/10/16 at 14:57:23: Looks like a manual decompression lever. You'll get some good answers here real soon. Oh! Thanks, now I know how it is called! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrAdongjIE
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5109 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #4 - 06/10/16 at 15:12:44 Ryca also makes a thumb lever that does the same thing and you can get rid of the pedal and all that linkage crap. I like the thumb lever , small and out of the way !
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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #5 - 06/10/16 at 15:51:16 The thumb lever calls for a "clutch mod" (???) . Here is the foot linkage. http://shop.rycamotors.com/decompression_lever.html If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...
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Reply #6 - 06/10/16 at 18:13:07

Most likely you pushed on the pedal too hard with your foot.

It can't hold the exhaust valve open far enough to anything to get broken (the stock decompression solenoid does the same thing).

99 out of 100 starts you most likely need the lever....but every not and then the piston is on the upstroke toward compression when the starter kicks in, and it can sometimes refuse to let the starter turn the engine over against the compression.

The problem with the hand lever - is if you stall the bike, you can[t hold the clutch lever in at the same time you reach down to use the decompression lever. You need to shift into neutral and then use the hand lever if the engine won't go over the compression stroke.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #7 - 06/10/16 at 21:07:13 Always keep the idle speed at or above 1,000RPM. Letting it idle while on the sidestand robs the cam of oil.
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kecuki YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 21 San Francisco, CA	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #8 - 06/11/16 at 11:59:01 old.indian wrote on 06/10/16 at 15:51:16: If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve... What do you mean?
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Reply #9 - 06/11/16 at 12:10:59

Dave wrote on 06/10/16 at 18:13:07:

Most likely you pushed on the pedal too hard with your foot.

It can't hold the exhaust valve open far enough to anything to get broken (the stock decompression solenoid does the same thing).

99 out of 100 starts you most likely need the lever....but every not and then the piston is on the upstroke toward compression when the starter kicks in, and it can sometimes refuse to let the starter turn the engine over against the compression.

The problem with the hand lever - is if you stall the bike, you can[t hold the clutch lever in at the same time you reach down to use the decompression lever. You need to shift into neutral and then use the hand lever if the engine won't go over the compression stroke.

I recon you meant 99 of 100 starts I won't need it, right?

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Reply #10 - 06/11/16 at 13:11:13

kecuki wrote on 06/11/16 at 11:59:01:

old.indian wrote on 06/10/16 at 15:51:16:

If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...

What do you mean?

If the valve is held open and contact is made with the piston, the valve will suffer. (Usually bending) Sometimes/ often the piston is damaged also. Either way, NOT a good situation.

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Reply #11 - 06/11/16 at 19:29:35

old.indian wrote on 06/11/16 at 13:11:13:

kecuki wrote on 06/11/16 at 11:59:01:

old.indian wrote on 06/10/16 at 15:51:16:

If your bike is running properly, I doubt if you bent that exuast valve...

What do you mean?

If the valve is held open and contact is made with the piston, the valve will suffer. (Usually bending) Sometimes/ often the piston is damaged also. Either way, NOT a good situation.

The compression release lever on the Suzuki will not push the valve open much.....it just lifts it off the seat a small amount. It has to.....as the stock compression release system does the same thing - it lifts the valve regardless of the position of the crank.

Don't sweat it......you didn't hurt anything.

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kecuki YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 21 San Francisco, CA	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #12 - 06/12/16 at 20:19:12 Could it do any damage if not fixed?
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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: Broke this within first 5 minutes after purcha Reply #13 - 06/12/16 at 20:29:00 If it were mine I'd fix it just because I want all systems go! Almost as critical as a tool kit. The bike runs but doesn't need it to run.
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