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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #30 - 06/04/16 at 22:11:11 I want to see more pics of Verslagen's Intake System. Kenny G
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5099 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #31 - 06/04/16 at 22:22:37 I think that's all your goin to see. I want to see how fast his bike is !
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5099 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #32 - 06/04/16 at 22:34:50 What is that ? A headlight off a train ?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #33 - 06/04/16 at 22:55:11 the cable isn't cooperating. The light is from a victory vegas. In WFO, it definitely has a power band.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5099 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #34 - 06/04/16 at 23:14:25 Still jetting mine, but it's fast,not used to that counter balancer,so smooth,but it's very fast,still haven't got to fifth gear. Sunday do some more tuning!
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Re: tuneing your intake
Reply #35 - 06/05/16 at 05:49:35

Start here: http://www.bgsoflex.com/intakeln.html

You can also use the posted chart as a good starting point. Length is dependent upon cam timing but with short/small stock cams this will get you close enough.

Intake length is the ENTIRE length form valve to atmosphere so you need to know the intake port length and carb length.

Trust me in that this will make a huge difference, especially right in the middle.

On the 130% VE question... 1.30 x 14.7 PSIA - 14.7 PSIA = 4.4 PSIG

That is obviously a Best-Case scenario but I have seen dyno tests where they measured 3+ PSIG on the intake side with tuned runners.

My inspiration was here: http://www.phaedrus.me/id158.html

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VortecCPI Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 127	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #36 - 06/05/16 at 05:55:56 More here:
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #38 - 06/05/16 at 06:55:30 vortec/Kenny G., thanks for the info ,you must have had lots of room on your srx vortec,I don't know how I can find 15-18 inches on a my 650.It does show that longer is better ,so there's no cone filter in my future!Maybe Verslagen 's setup is about the best so far.
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Re: tuneing your intake
Reply #39 - 06/05/16 at 09:06:36

batman wrote on 06/05/16 at 06:55:30:

vortec/Kenny G., thanks for the info ,you must have had lots of room on your srx vortec,I don't know how I can find 15-18 inches on a my 650.It does show that longer is better ,so there's no cone filter in my future!Maybe Verslagen 's setup is about the best so far.

Yes. I had LOTS of room. In fact, the new airbox volume is more than needed for 600cc.

One option might be to run the intake in a semi-circle with the pod filter pointing forward. Bends and elbows don't have much of an impact on air flow and tuning.

Ram-Tuned Hemi: http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/113-0704-ram-rod/#photo-03

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #40 - 06/05/16 at 11:13:03 Vortex, Bruce Bowling has had a lot of formulas on several sites for lotsa years. Most of his formula predictions are best case scenarios but they do work.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5099 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #41 - 06/05/16 at 14:51:07 Is there some basic equations to figure out runner length by displacement & carb bore diameter ? You know ball park calculations for dummies or child's version!
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #42 - 06/05/16 at 16:49:07 Not really. Any simple basic calculation will be way off. Wave tuning has too many variables. Just use the online calculators and you will be close. You'll probably only see a difference if you actually dyno the bike and tune from that info.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #43 - 06/05/16 at 18:58:17 Even then, if you don't really know what you are doing, it's just Dyno might..
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: tuneing your intake Reply #44 - 06/05/16 at 19:02:16 This is pretty simple math. Try this link: http://www.chrysler300club.com/uniq/allaboutrams/ramtheory.htm
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