Is there such a thing as unfettered freedom?

Do you understand the question?

I offer you the answer no.

Just like the island I live on, it is getting smaller from natural erosion.
The rain, winds, and water asult her, it's part of what they do....
Man however can accelerate it by his actions too.
If I cut into the earth, remove trees for a better view, etc, I have hastened the effects of erosion from the islands inception.
As we try and fit more people and homes on her, we must make consession and adjustments to the betterment of all.
We can never turn back the hands of time, or live in the past.
Some old timers here view this as an invasion and a bad thing, harboring ill will as a constant companion....
Tell me, how does that better their lot?

It's a stretch, but I think we can extend this parable to our democracy....
And I find it is a natural thing, not sinister....
However, our task is to elect good stewards of freedom who have wisdom in the balance, for all, not a select group.

Absolutely, but it'll cost you.


--Steve

It's freedom within the constrains of whatever society you try to belong to. Full freedom becomes anarchy which is why we all get fettered in our actions, thoughts and words. It's all an illusion of control while we swim in circles in our little fish tank.

Money is the key.

Money equals freedom.

You want to go live on a mountain somewhere, hope you own the land.
Here in Connecticut you can't get an AR15 anymore (for $5-800). But you buy a preban rifle for $3000.

You can't manufacture a machine gun since '86, but you can buy a legal form 4 MG for ~20k.

You want to process chemicals but it's dangerous? Cheaper to have crappy conditions? Move the operation over seas. That way if something bad happens like fire or a gas leak, those lives cost less.

Fire: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/workers-die-factories-tommy-hilfiger/story?id=1...

Gas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

You want to travel the country. Passport costs money, so does air fare.

Money equals freedom.


--Steve

A question to ask yourself is
What would You do that would hurt others, materially or physically, if there was no cop?

How much of the law is designed to protect Me from Me?
And Why?

I think the immediate response of a society that suddenly was without authority maintaining, forcing under penalty of force, polite behavior, there would be a Huge spike in violent crime.
The decent members of society would band together and create an ad hoc police force, and the Neighborhood Watch concept would be the order of the day. Vigilante justice would correct the criminals in places, criminals would concentrate in certain areas, as would good people.

Early in human development communities came into existence.
I can't find it and can't remember what I read, but a small community really doesn't need a police force. It takes a surprisingly small number to start to need some oversight.
Of course, the Kind of people who make up the community plays a huge role.
The
There is no real right or wrong
Situational Ethics
crowd? Ohhh, gonna be needing cops.

Imagine the jerks in government suddenly completely free of the potential for prosecution, ohhh, wait,,