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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #45 - 05/11/16 at 16:26:22 I would go to lengths to try to narrow down where that noise is coming from before I walked off into it.
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Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise
Reply #46 - 05/11/16 at 16:39:24

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I would go to lengths to try to narrow down where that noise is coming from before I walked off into it.

That's the ticket. That's why I always use and recommend a stethoscope to pinpoint the noise. But stubbornness and laziness usually kick in first. Problem isolation part of basic troubleshooting. Then it boils down to pull it apart and see where the problem is. Roll Eyes

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kojones Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 223 Finland	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #47 - 05/14/16 at 08:57:51 Flywheel was just fine. Is there any way to check that the oil pressure is ok and the oil is moving properly to the head?
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #48 - 05/14/16 at 09:07:48 I would think that if there is plenty of oil visible through the valve adjustment caps you can be almost certain that the head is getting sufficient oil.
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Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise
Reply #49 - 05/14/16 at 13:26:56

You mentioned someone welded or did some repair to the clutch cover? There is a oil galley for the crank on that. Right were the small oil seal is. That supplies oil to the crank, rod, piston, pretty much the whole top end.

My point being make sure the oil seal is good. The noise could be piston slap. You would have to pull the jug off and check the piston skirt and have the cylinder bore gauged.

Another simple but overlooked thing. Is the oil filter installed the correct way? If not it will block oil pressure and ruin the engine quickly.

Lastly yes you can check oil pressure with the wright adapter. There is a chrome bolt below the oil filter where you could connect a oil pressure gauge. Cool

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #50 - 05/14/16 at 15:05:39 simple but overlooked thing. Is the oil filter installed the correct way? If not it will block oil pressure and ruin the engine quickly. Usually only takes minutes to blow the filter against the cover hard enough to break it. But, pulling the filter and seeing what it's caught is a cheap thing.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #51 - 05/16/16 at 06:09:00 I just listened to the noise again. The noise isn't there under load, but gets very loud as the piston is unloaded. My money is on a bearing failure on the crank shaft. Perhaps the needle bearing.
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Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise
Reply #52 - 05/16/16 at 06:53:47

What does it do when you downshift and let the engine slow the bike?

I would get it rolling good, get it in neutral and see what it does.
Fifty or so sounds good. Coast a bit, Hit the kill switch, too. See if you learn anything.

Seems like a bad bearing would be as bad or worse under load.
The output shaft and pulley can make noise. If the pulley is hitting the cover it's gonna be loud. If it's that loose, I'd be worried.. but, under load, that area is gonna act different from coasting. If you haven't eyeballed it,do, before you ride again.

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #53 - 05/16/16 at 09:12:34 My understand is that the OP hasn't ridden the bike due to the concern of the noise. That kind of rules out the pulley theory. It also makes diagnosis while riding unnecessary. Every time that I've heard a bad bearing it was when the throttle transitioned from loaded to unloaded.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #54 - 05/16/16 at 10:18:23 That kind of rules out the pulley theory. No, it doesn't. Unless you have looked, that is where you need to go. Besides, if you're gonna rip into it, might as well get it on a bench. I don't know what miles it has on it.
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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #55 - 05/16/16 at 11:27:06 Yep pull the clutch cover check the oil seal oil filter and pull the jug off. Check piston, con rod bearings, cylinder wall, top end... Bummer
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #56 - 05/16/16 at 12:52:29 Yeah, start with that.
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Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise
Reply #57 - 05/16/16 at 12:55:54

I've pulled the clutch cover twice, first to check the tensioner and second time to check everything again and add some sealant on top. The oil filter can't be installed wrong way around and the O-ring is in there too.

I'm going to drive it a bit and give it some more throttle when I've installed the left side cover, maybe I know more after that. Can't pull the jug off without driving her a couple of hundred miles, as I have no tools or suitable space here, or have no other transportation method than driving. Renting a van would be way too expensive Tongue

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #58 - 05/16/16 at 13:16:07 The oil filter can't be installed wrong way around. We've Seen it done.
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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: 2000 Savage clanking noise Reply #59 - 05/16/16 at 14:44:25 And check the oil seal inside the cover. If it's damaged or not there a big problem. Not the oring on the oil filter but inside the clutch cover it's about a inch to 1.5" in diameter.
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