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03/24/16 at 18:24:32
 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/researchers-conduct-successful-new-tes...




Hey, you live in a new era -- the exploration of the solar system is about to begin !!!!

People want the heavy metals from the broken up planet that makes up the Asteroid Belt -- just pick your chunk, the mining is already done.

Want 1000 tons of gold?   Pick the right chunk of "presorted by weight" core material and you got it !!!!!

Want to be your own boss?   Be an Asteroid Miner ......

Your microwave oven in the kitchen contains a small version of what powers this trick --- a good old basic magnetron (alias WWII RADAR generator).

This is what the Chinese used, an old out of service military grade radar magnetron unit.   Because it was VERY powerful, it made a thrust that was not able to be argued away by any observer (which is an issue the NASA unit has, measurement error is of the same order of magnitude as their puny thrust off a microwave magnetron).

The Russsians are moving forward with our old fission rocket engine design and the Chinese are running away with the VERY powerful magnetron reactionless fuel less thingie.

NASA is still studying it.
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Reply #1 - 03/24/16 at 18:51:33
 
"stellar" tech (pun intended)
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Reply #2 - 03/25/16 at 05:48:42
 

What about the item that makes it more fun,  heads of various scientific disciplines all say it cannot work -- it is theoretically impossible.

Well, bumblebees flying and LENR reactors heating and Magnetron space drives all say that your theory needs some work, as does the gravity waves that were just detected and a whole raft of other stuff you have been stonewalling.

What is especially irritating to the egghead set is that people are doing simply amazing things with items that are impossible simply because they don't know its impossible.  They just go do it.

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Reply #3 - 03/25/16 at 06:19:52
 
Yes there doesn't need to be any fuel for "thrust", but there will have to be fuel to power the component needed for the drive to produce thrust.

I doubt that a "solar array" will provide enough power to start up that massive radar magnetron and keep it supplied with the energy it needs to produce the thrust. Perhaps a small nuclear reactor like the one on the rover?

AND, the EM Drive engine will have to be boosted into orbit and installed on the "ships" that will probably have to be built (or assembled from pieces) in orbit also....

Looks like we need a large REAL space station and orbiting factory to assemble our future starships.

I doubt that will happen, we are broke now.... how are we going to fund that?  Huh

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how are we going to fund that?




best scenario:

Pull from the military industrial complex. Or start charging for our "police/security" services rendered to others for "FREE" around the globe.
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Reply #5 - 03/25/16 at 08:32:51
 

Yes, a solar array can make enough power because in the vacuum of space sunlight is raw and very strong compared to what we normally see on earth.

Next, every ICBM has a radioactive isotope power cell in it that lasts for decades and decades and the stock ICBM radioactive power cell unit has enough juice to power a mild small magnetron powered "no fuel needed" drive for unmanned trips.   (if you don't care about the whole thing getting slowly radioactive, that is)     Constant low boost levels still builds up over time, if it is unmanned, to very high speeds and fairly quickly at that.

So the solar array can do it, and the ICBM isotope power cell technology can do it.  Unmanned stuff can substitute time for raw power and get there just the same.

The Russians are looking for less than 30 days to get people to Mars, using a fission rocket plane technology they spy stole from the American Air Force, which has had its own top secret Space Agency since the 1960s.  

Look it up, the Air Force had its own small top secret space station long long before Skylab was ever financed or launched.   Back before NSA's satellites got good enough, we kept a few people in orbit over the USSR during the height of the cold war.   Were they sitting on a bunch of short range interceptor missiles?   Who knows .......  but once the rocket boost phase is over the Russian war head package (pre-separation package) is a ballistic turkey shoot using sparrow type radar homing missiles from a similar speed orbit.

Do you think the Russians folded up over Star Wars if it wasn't a real viable credible threat during the Reagan years?

We have retired Air Force people leaving documents to be read after they died saying they have personally been to Mars (which gets instantly completely discounted and disbelieved until you remember those Air Force blue colored EV suits that were discovered with those name tags that nobody can identify behind an abandoned locked unmarked door down an abandoned locked unmarked hallway at the Kennedy Space Center).

Our Government and Military keeps secrets pretty durn well, really they really do.    And I guess they should keep them secrets since we signed treaties and all with the Russians about not our not militarizing outer space after the treaty was signed (it doesn't say shite about us already having it sitting up there, you know)

Over 30 years ago there was a hushed up flap over an Air Force X plane making an emergency landing on a strip of New Mexico highway, leaving 3 miles of that highway mildly radioactive from a malfunctioning fission rocket drive.

We know we built and tested a high orbit-capable-from-the-ground fission rocket powered space plane over 30 years ago ....

Over 30 years ago we really did have orbital refueling "Mars visit capable" fission rocket plane technology available to us.  

Do you really think the "right stuff guys" didn't go there?

Bullshite .... and now we got dead right stuff guys now saying they did go orbit Mars, and the radiation from the fission space drives eventually killed them with long term cancer.

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Reply #6 - 03/25/16 at 11:01:32
 

And, BTW, who do you think the secret customer is for that LENR rocket drive?    

Rossi admits to working with NASA / Military on a LENR rocket drive ..... now jest think of it as retrofitting LENR in place of an existing fully developed military fission drive space plane.
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Reply #7 - 03/25/16 at 11:34:33
 
Air Force had its own small top secret space station

Went looking, nothing jumped out.

I'm a believer in
Technology WE are being allowed to see is decades old
idea.
That we did what you say wouldn't surprise me, but I am not seeing it.

As for the
Old timers dying and leaving documents , space travel, flight suits, and all that, I would happily read about it.
Anything you can point to?
The
They can't keep a secret
defense against things is just not true.
Many motivations exist. Friends, family, career, framed and slammed in prison, Tons of ways to help you keep your mouth shut.
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Reply #8 - 03/25/16 at 11:41:33
 

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/found_mol_spacesuits.html

Justin, your google fu is very weak .....   it isn't even a secret any more.     This is a current NASA administrator standing next to his old Air Force Space Program suit .......




The Orion program is still top secret and no details have been released in the last 30 years about where the program went to.

Here is what is available, although it is not confirmed please note there are several different developmental generations of this nuclear powered propulsion system referred to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)


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Reply #9 - 03/25/16 at 11:59:50
 
Yes my Google fu is poo.
Server Error

404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

On the picture links.

Other historical treasures found in the room include old film canisters,

one flown shuttle main landing tire,

In the picture drawing, of the secret space module, there is a Very Space Shuttle looking thing near it. I don't see how it would be possible to launch such a thing secretly, or get the parts for the module up, but what I can or cannot envision doesn't necessarily define reality.

So, was the tire from a shuttle launch we all saw on T.V., or from a precursor, secretly designed and used just for the program you're telling us about?


electrical equipment, and various miscellaneous boxes.

The MOL program left other legacies to NASA, as well. When the program was cancelled, seven of the younger astronauts were transferred to the agency's human space flight program and went on to have standout careers. Among them were Robert Crippen, pilot of the first Space Shuttle mission, and Richard H. "thingy" Truly, who later became NASA Administrator.



How nicely rewarded for their silence...
Not to suggest they lacked the qualifications.
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Reply #10 - 03/25/16 at 12:39:57
 

OK, it's weird ......

Click on this link     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

then when it comes up with "did you mean Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

then  click on that link -- you will then go to the page that was intended.   The problem is the first link is too long for a click through, as wikipedia can't handle an address that is that long and it cuts off the last "close parenthesis" every durn time.  

Weak Google fu all right, but it is Wikepedia that is weak ......
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Reply #11 - 03/25/16 at 12:47:25
 
Then check out  a search that says

"We have already been to Mars" and you will find our guy saying this casually while being interviewed ......

Could he be having a senior moment, sure ..... but other astronauts have said so as well in written post death statements that were collected and removed soon there after.    The fact the post deathbed statements were collected quickly says much about a cover-up being in place.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread961120/pg1
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Reply #12 - 03/25/16 at 12:51:26
 
That blue mol suit was an sr71 suit... the patch is right on it... kinda looks like this......

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Reply #13 - 03/25/16 at 13:24:58
 

Not SR 71 suits at all, The SR 71 program was CIA based and not in the same reporting structure at all.

"The manufacturer, however, determined that they were MH-7 training suits from a short-lived Cold War-era military program to put a manned reconnaissance station in space.

Concept drawing of the Air Force's Manned Orbital Laboratory Image above: A 1960 conceptual drawing of the Manned Orbiting Laboratory. Click for larger image. Credit: NASA



Begun in 1964, the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program was an Air Force initiative that would have sent Air Force astronauts to a space station in a Gemini capsule. After spending a few weeks in orbit, the crew would undock and return to Earth. The Air Force abandoned the program in 1969, but the program produced a great deal of technological development, and three groups of military officers trained to be MOL astronauts.

The spacesuit with identifying number 008 had the name "LAWYER" on the left sleeve. The suit was traced to Lt. Col. Richard E. Lawyer, a member of the first group recruited to be MOL astronauts in 1965."


How much of all of this is obfuscation is unknown at this point in time -- the Air Force is very good at obfuscation when it needs to obfuscate over something, like say Area 51 and weather balloons .....

I will say that those little space planes don't look like gemini capsules ot me --- do they look like gemini capsules to you?  

This is stuff NASA has released from top secret, so your guess is as good as mine.

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Reply #14 - 03/25/16 at 17:15:14
 
Looks like a shuttle to me.

Interesting stuff, Buzz wants to go back to mars...
Project blue book.
Phhhht...
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