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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #30 - 03/31/16 at 05:54:38 I only used that as a picture reference. I am definitely getting a raptor petcock.
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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #31 - 04/10/16 at 07:08:53 Just an update I got the Raptor petcock, Brake set, new rear tire. Got it all put on and test rode.. The bike still continues to cut off like its starving for fuel. I have to put the new(and did have to with the old) petcock in the Reserve position to get the bike to start back.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #32 - 04/10/16 at 07:31:20 My rear brake was too easy to lock up. I cut the shoes with the edge of a four inch grinder.Eliminating about 1/3 of the contact area. It was Much better. I would take a little more off, if I had kept the bike. How much gas in the tank? Did you open the cap?
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Reply #33 - 04/10/16 at 08:27:50

I bucked up for a deer the other night that never even jumped out in the road. I was just afraid it would. Tells you how much I trust deer. Grin

Anyway-- about that rear tire-- I had a hard time keeping it from sliding. I thought my drum had glazed over, as it didn't seem to have a huge amount of bite. But when I actually needed it to stop, that darn thing locked too easy. I don't think I even put anywhere near full pressure on the front brake. I had to focus on keeping it in control. Ever notice you are less likely to use the front brake when the rear locks up? Or is it just me?

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Reply #34 - 04/10/16 at 08:41:47

jrobeson18 wrote on 04/10/16 at 07:08:53:

Just an update

I got the Raptor petcock, Brake set, new rear tire. Got it all put on and test rode.. The bike still continues to cut off like its starving for fuel. I have to put the new(and did have to with the old) petcock in the Reserve position to get the bike to start back.

This is sounding more like the problem I had. Did you check the filter screen behind the float valve? When it's starving for fuel, it should cut off slowly over a span of, say, 5 seconds (could be more or could be less) increasingly weakening, missing and bucking before finally losing all power. If it cuts suddenly without bucking, I would suspect an electrical problem. Of course, even a loose connection could probably cause missing and bucking, right?

Actually, if the your condition is just right in severity, you'll be able to ride for miles with the bike missing and bucking all the way. I used the enrichment knob and full throttle to make it to work at least once that way. That was fairly early in the issue's progression. But then, riding that way could be hard on the engine.

Have you ever had a bike try to die on you while riding with the fuel shut off? It's kinda like that, but it can take longer and more pressure (throttle) to occur, depending on the severity of the blockage. This means that instead of barely making it around the block, you end up sitting on the shoulder of a four-lane. Roll Eyes

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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #35 - 04/10/16 at 09:54:39

cheapnewb24 wrote on 04/10/16 at 08:27:50:

I bucked up for a deer the other night that never even jumped out in the road. I was just afraid it would. Tells you how much I trust deer. Grin

Anyway-- about that rear tire-- I had a hard time keeping it from sliding. I thought my drum had glazed over, as it didn't seem to have a huge amount of bite. But when I actually needed it to stop, that darn thing locked too easy. I don't think I even put anywhere near full pressure on the front brake. I had to focus on keeping it in control. Ever notice you are less likely to use the front brake when the rear locks up? Or is it just me?

But when I actually needed it to stop, that darn thing locked too easy

There's a simple solution.

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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #36 - 04/10/16 at 16:37:07 It is bucking. Missing and all that good stuff before it stops running The carb was recently redone and cleaned. I have new gas in it. Cant imagine it being electrical.
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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #37 - 04/10/16 at 16:42:47

cheapnewb24 wrote on 04/10/16 at 08:41:47:

jrobeson18 wrote on 04/10/16 at 07:08:53:

Just an update

I got the Raptor petcock, Brake set, new rear tire. Got it all put on and test rode.. The bike still continues to cut off like its starving for fuel. I have to put the new(and did have to with the old) petcock in the Reserve position to get the bike to start back.

Well since mine wont go 1/4 mile in the ON position nor idle good(just tested this today) I'm thinking ill just ride it in the RES position

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This is sounding more like the problem I had. Did you check the filter screen behind the float valve? When it's starving for fuel, it should cut off slowly over a span of, say, 5 seconds (could be more or could be less) increasingly weakening, missing and bucking before finally losing all power. If it cuts suddenly without bucking, I would suspect an electrical problem. Of course, even a loose connection could probably cause missing and bucking, right?

Actually, if the your condition is just right in severity, you'll be able to ride for miles with the bike missing and bucking all the way. I used the enrichment knob and full throttle to make it to work at least once that way. That was fairly early in the issue's progression. But then, riding that way could be hard on the engine.

Have you ever had a bike try to die on you while riding with the fuel shut off? It's kinda like that, but it can take longer and more pressure (throttle) to occur, depending on the severity of the blockage. This means that instead of barely making it around the block, you end up sitting on the shoulder of a four-lane. Roll Eyes

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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #38 - 04/10/16 at 17:50:56

Did you try it with the tank cap off or loose per JoG's advice? It's good advice....
Even try it at home: Lock the cap on, disconnect the fuel line and have it empty into a tin. Open the fuel tap. see what comes out. A steady stream or a dribble? Listen to the fuel cap. Hear a whistling noise? If you don't, it's not venting and the fuel can't come out. The tank needs to be able to replace draining fuel with air, otherwise the fuel just wants to stay in the tank. If the cap is blocked, it needs repairing or replacing.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #39 - 04/10/16 at 18:39:00 Yep, if it's not draining, it's not feeding the carb.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #40 - 04/10/16 at 21:03:43 cheapnewb24 wrote on 04/10/16 at 08:27:50: Ever notice you are less likely to use the front brake when the rear locks up? That's because you're more focused on NOT dumping the bike than you are on actually braking correctly!
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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #41 - 04/11/16 at 04:05:55 I did empty the tank starting with the tank cap on. and with it off. ran the bike both ways too. results indifferent. and yes I try to focus on braking correctly and using counter steering all the time
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #42 - 04/11/16 at 04:54:08 I did empty the tank starting with the tank cap on. and with it off. ran the bike both ways too. results indifferent. Well, snot the cap vent.
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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #43 - 04/11/16 at 05:41:45 Also, when I start the bike when its in gear, yes holding in the clutch. the bike jerks forward like the clutch isn't fully disengauged. anyone got a write up- how to on adjusting the clutch catch point?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #44 - 04/11/16 at 05:50:50 That's just normal. Put it in neutral.
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