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Reply #135 - 04/22/16 at 03:33:05

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/21/16 at 18:04:17:

I'd be taking it apart and checking for damage before I bought parts. Why did it break? I don't remember ever seeing that.
And what damage has been done by the crank, being turned by the starter, stirring that pile of chain?

I'd think about getting the tank off and giving the bike a vigorous shake, then drain the oil into a clean pan. And I would carefully drain that, maybe through a paint strainer, and hunt for bits of anything. Even run a magnet through it, since a steel chain broke.

Eyeball the gears good. If one is burred, smooth it up.
I'd expect a chain to break on the front side and , if everything goes right, fall clear of the crank and not mess anything else up... but,
What's on your side is, with the bike leaning, the chain could fall and not Find the gear teeth again.

I do not know for sure why it broke.
My guess, and only guessing at this moment. Is that the chain doubled up on a gear and snapped it. The break on the chain looks forced and not like a wear.
Tearing into it will only tell.

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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #136 - 04/22/16 at 03:44:15 Also, versy said check my valves, what does this mean? Pull the head and check valves and/ir have head redone?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28842 L.A. California Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #137 - 04/22/16 at 08:26:18 jrobeson18 wrote on 04/22/16 at 03:44:15: Also, versy said check my valves, what does this mean? Pull the head and check valves and/ir have head redone? firstly, you can pull the header and intake off and eyeball them. but I did go on to say compression test.
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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #138 - 04/22/16 at 08:30:28

jrobeson18 wrote on 04/22/16 at 03:28:08:

The chain is out. It was just sitting up top( the broken end. Chain was on the back of the cam. It apparently fell forward,
Tank is off. No sound when bike is shaken. I'll be tearing it apart to inspect any further damage. Teeth on cam gear look new. Minimal wear.
from what I saw so far and hear. There is no metal grinding or anything moving around in there now. Do I only need to take off the one cover where the cam chain tensioner is?

yes, take the clutch cover off, take off the chain and pick up the tensioner pieces.

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Reply #139 - 04/22/16 at 17:55:59

Took off the clutch cover. And found an obliterated tensioner. Has holes worn through it, little to no damage to the gear teeth for all gears. Clutch basket has some wear. Pitting and scraps, other wise fine. The oil was partially SILVER. Metal bit and flakes everywhere.... Part of me wants to scrap the engine. But... There are no real integral damages seen. I'll be cleaning out the oil sump filter. As well as a full flush. But on the up side. I think, stress"think", that a timing kit and some good hard flushing, I think shell be back on the road before june
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #141 - 04/22/16 at 18:26:32 You saw aluminum. Now, fish for steel.
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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #142 - 04/23/16 at 05:33:37 Nothing new yet, steel wise. I'll be flushing the motor out with some oil that was given to me(castrol motorcycle oil)
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #143 - 04/23/16 at 06:27:21 I don't know what I'd do about the oil passageways. I don't even know if they are a threat. Just oil from cranking it, probably not a big deal.
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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #144 - 04/23/16 at 10:58:06

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/23/16 at 06:27:21:

I don't know what I'd do about the oil passageways.
I don't even know if they are a threat.
Just oil from cranking it, probably not a big deal.

Talking about turning it over during the flush?
I was just going to pour 5 qts I got in it. Sloshing it violently and the drain.
I figured doing that about 1-2 times should work pretty well.

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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #145 - 04/23/16 at 11:11:57

I don't know what oil you got but pouring in 5 qts and sloshing it around will only remove surface stuff.

We recommend Rotella T for the general use in the engine. It has good ZDDP and enough detergent to keep the engine pretty darn clean and it's cheap.
Put 2 qts in, burn a tank full of gas, then change the oil. repeat if necessary.

And I'd put in a magnetic drain plug or add a magnet to the filter.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #146 - 04/23/16 at 13:56:22 I think it was Oldfeller that cleaned out an old crusty engine by running Rotella through it and changing the oil sooner than normal. It's made for dirty diesel engines so the detergents in it should have no problems with our little engine.
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Re: so i locked my rear tire
Reply #147 - 04/23/16 at 19:10:39

Sounds good, I have rotella for regular use anyway. I was just going to put some cheap Castrol through it for a bit to try and catch more of the junk and fragments that are left.

Anyone got a link to a timing chain kit? Chain tensioner and guides? I'll be getting a verslavy before 8k more miles. Just need to get this uo for the season, so they wife can have the jeep.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #148 - 04/23/16 at 19:41:43 I'd probably lay it down and leave it to let crud slide off the bottom of the case. Look at the access. Get creative. Rag, wire.
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jrobeson18 Full Member Offline Jeep and a Suzuki, how can i lose? Posts: 121 Charlotte NC Gender:	Re: so i locked my rear tire Reply #149 - 04/23/16 at 20:02:27 Uve peaked my interest, explain? Rag and wire?
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