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Reply #15 - 03/19/16 at 18:03:49
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/19/16 at 16:58:57:
Despise, you missed despise.
Miserable, disg u sting, low life slime ball scuzz bucket reprobate thieves,,, and I missed quite a few.
Hating equally is okay. It's fair, at least.
And, I disagree that half would always be unhappy.
It was the FEW, vocal, tireless voices and the media, used to drive policy decisions that made the social changes. Ohh, how tirelessly they worked. And,when political power changes, Nothing that was Bad for America when the conservatives were in a minority, got changed.

When America is prosperous and the People are employed and saving and adding onto the house, adding a garage, and Still saving, the unhappy few just might be screwed up.
Look at what changes have been made.
Look at society.
Who Really believes that what America needs is more of the same?

The Same groups are making policy decisions since they killed JFK.
Go back, look, Bush and his thugs were making the real decisions. Reagan was allowed to pretend that he was doing something. Just a figurehead. Gave Bush more time to run things. They didn't want Reagan dead.


Well if ya can't understand the meaning of "trickle down" then maybe you should sit when you pee  Tongue

Ok, big boy panties on now.....

If folk can't understand the principles of obvious, then let me help you out.
For it ( wealth/money/etc ) to trickle down to the lower classes, it means the gubbermint is sanctioning its policies to give that very wealth to the, uh, get this, the WEALTHY for their policies to work....

How much more IN YOUR FACE do you need the rich to tell you THEY COME FIRST?
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Reply #16 - 03/19/16 at 19:00:18
 
The name does pretty well say it all, dunnit? What Seriously bugs me is the position of credibility that Paul Roberts seems to have amongst the
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crowd.
That Seriously bugs me.
Reagan Presidency, supposedly the Greatest President of our lives. Has anyone actually Looked at what was done in central and south America.
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Reply #17 - 03/19/16 at 19:51:22
 
raydawg,

that is EXACTLY why I HATE them. wealthy elitist douchebags supporting their brethren only, at MY expense. $h1t floats
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Reply #18 - 03/19/16 at 19:56:06
 
raydawg wrote on 03/19/16 at 17:56:40:
DesertRat wrote on 03/19/16 at 16:26:40:
politicians have no control of the free market. they can however, manipulate it for their backers ...



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You wanna try again  Grin

Look at tobacco and fire arms, and fossil fuel, etc.....

Go ponder and return with a more thought out answer  Kiss


please read out load what I wrote, and use a lot less ad hominem - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques
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Reply #19 - 03/20/16 at 07:33:59
 
"Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Every way you look at this you lose."

--- Simon and Garfunkel

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Reply #20 - 03/20/16 at 07:47:48
 
DesertRat wrote on 03/19/16 at 19:56:06:
raydawg wrote on 03/19/16 at 17:56:40:
DesertRat wrote on 03/19/16 at 16:26:40:
politicians have no control of the free market. they can however, manipulate it for their backers ...



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You wanna try again  Grin

Look at tobacco and fire arms, and fossil fuel, etc.....

Go ponder and return with a more thought out answer  Kiss


please read out load what I wrote, and use a lot less ad hominem - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques


C'mon......
Don't go bleeding heart touchy filly on me son, you're have a miserable life of watching Oprah reruns and eating bon bons, if you do.....

Yes, of course they are puppets for their masters, but their backers look for a square peg, to fit into their square hole, instead of trying to force it into a round hole.....  
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Reply #21 - 03/20/16 at 07:55:14
 
'If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.'
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Reply #22 - 03/20/16 at 08:15:00
 
DesertRat wrote on 03/20/16 at 07:55:14:
'If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.'


Yes, you are right, good one.

Can you imagine how hard it would be for them to control a no party affiliation, no primary, popular vote, most votes win, presidency, second most votes, vice president, etc.
No delegates, or electorate college, just straight up....

Just like the tax laws, they want to keep it confusing and subjective, and unfair.... so accountability can used according to their whims.  
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Reply #23 - 03/20/16 at 08:56:16
 
agreed Raydawg. The control issues would be zombie apocalypse scary for them.
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Reply #24 - 03/20/16 at 10:21:41
 
We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/16/we-choose-the-nominee-not-the-voters-senior-go...



Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don't hold primaries or caucuses.
Even with Trump's huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.


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This could lead to a brokered convention, in which unbound delegates, like Haugland, could play a significant swing role on the first ballot to choose a nominee.

Most delegates bound by their state's primary or caucus results are only committed on the first ballot. If subsequent ballots are needed, virtually all of the delegates can vote any way they want, said Gary Emineth, another unbound delegate from North Dakota.

"It could introduce Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, or it could be the other candidates that have already been in the race and are now out of the race [such as] Mike Huckabee [or] Rick Santorum. All those people could eventually become candidates on the floor," Emineth said.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, who decided not to run for the White House this year, said in a CNBC interview Tuesday he won't categorically rule out accepting the GOP nomination if a deadlocked convention were to turn to him. But on Wednesday, a Ryan spokeswoman said the speaker would not accept a Republican nomination for president at a divided convention.

Democrats experienced the last true brokered presidential convention to go beyond the first ballot in 1952. Republicans came close at their 1976 convention.
"The rules haven't kept up," Haugland said. "The rules are still designed to have a political party choose its nominee at a convention. That's just the way it is. I can't help it. Don't hate me because I love the rules."

Haugland said he sent a letter to each campaign alerting them to a rule change he's proposing, which would allow any candidate who earns at least one delegate during the nominating process to submit his or her name to be nominated at this summer's convention.

If the GOP race continues at the same pace, Trump would likely have a plurality of delegates. So far, he's more than halfway to the 1,237 magic number.

Trump split Tuesday's winner-take-all primaries in Florida and Ohio.

The real estate mogul dominated in Florida over Sen. Marco Rubio, who dropped out of the race after losing his home state.

But Trump lost Ohio to the state's governor, John Kasich. Trump also won Illinois and North Carolina. He held a slim lead over Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in Missouri early Wednesday.

Emineth, also a former chairman of the North Dakota Republican Party, told "Squawk Box" in the same interview that he's concerned about party officials pulling "some shenanigan."

"You have groups of people who are going to try to take over the rules committee," he warned. "[That] could totally change everything, and mess things up with the delegates. And people across the country will be very frustrated."

"It's important that the Republican National Committee has transparency on what they're doing [on the rules] going into the convention and what happens in the convention," he continued. That's because of "all the votes that have been cast in caucuses and primaries. Don't disenfranchise those voters. Because at the end of the day, our goal is to beat Hillary Clinton or whoever their [Democratic] nominee is in November."
Emineth said he's worried that frustration would discourage Americans in the general election from voting Republican.

— CNBC's Lori Ann LaRocco contributed to this report.
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Trust me, we are gonna get another
Can't Win
can'tdidate, and Trump runs third party.  Hillary walks across the plate, scoring the winning run for the globalist establishment.
The Only way that doesn't happen is if it is a huge landslide victory for the Not Hillary candidate. The machines and the media can be used to get her in,even when the popular vote doesn't. The Only way that Doesn't happen is, barring indictment or hey, maybe a suicide? is for the Not Hillary vote to be So large that Everyone Knows that she Can't have won.

At this point,Should the gamesmanship be elevated to the point where they Don't put Cruz or Trump in as the candidate, anyone who continues to Not see what I have been saying is obviously beyond help.
Should they Believe that they Can put someone other than Cruz or Trump in the ring, against Hillary, then I don't see how it is possible to continue to believe that the People have any voice in D.C..
I'm not exactly happy with Trump or Cruz,but, I trust Hillary, and what she would support would finish us off.
If Cruz would Do what he said, that would be great.
I'm pretty sure we would see the Secret Service ordered to stand down, like the minute before JFK was shot.


E.T.A.

Here is where it gets muddy.
What is the end goal?
Depends on your concept of reality. I'm looking at a scientific concentration of control. Most of you seem to believe that the government is a bumbling but well meaning association of like minded people, in that they only want what's best for us, and each group believes in a different direction, a different idea, about how best to accommodate our needs.
Considering the obvious failures and the well known position of the People, why is it that all these well meaning people just haven't been able to reverse the trade deals that shut down the industries?
So, what is Really going on here?
I Could make the case that we won't get an election. But, it's Hillary's turn. She stepped aside and handed it to Obama.
Though, the coverage of Ferguson, and the Treyvon Martin thing, sure LOOKED like trying to stir up racial tensions.
Do they Want people in the streets yet? The global economic picture is pretty grim. I'm pretty sure they don't want it to all come down Prior to some social upheaval that causes the People to cry out to the government for help.
Remember


Problem
Reaction
Solution

And the solution is
We Will provide for you and protect you.
Everyone, turn in the guns.


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Reply #25 - 03/20/16 at 11:15:17
 
I'm sorry JOG, I don't understand the difference between Hillary and Trump.
They both have mastered the talking of both sides of the mouth.....and make Teflon Ronnie seem sticky.

The whole thing reminds me of a guy who gets caught with another women.
In his argument he turns the the table of responsibility upon his wife, after  saying he was NOT having intercourse with her... with the question posed to her, "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"

The rich and powerful of the world will always rule, they are the BIGGEST lobbyist, making every one else a minority

Edit: Bernie is the only chance, yet the very same media scares people with SOCIALISM
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Reply #26 - 03/20/16 at 11:22:53
 
raydawg wrote on 03/20/16 at 11:15:17:
The rich and powerful of the world will always rule, they are the BIGGEST lobbyist, making every one else a minority


or ... making every one else a serf/slave ...
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Reply #27 - 03/20/16 at 11:48:32
 
DesertRat wrote on 03/20/16 at 11:22:53:
raydawg wrote on 03/20/16 at 11:15:17:
The rich and powerful of the world will always rule, they are the BIGGEST lobbyist, making every one else a minority


or ... making every one else a serf/slave ...


Yes, of course you are right, but to acknowledge the truth of that would then put all of the have nots into the same category, which could very well empower and embolden them.....
Which could prove a real threat to the elitist. It's much easier to fragment them with assigning class envy, whites vs. black, straight vs. gay, believer vs. atheist, Suzuki vs. Harley 😜 etc
It keeps us fighting each other for the crumbs 😁

Or...... TRICKLE DOWN

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Reply #28 - 03/20/16 at 11:51:24
 
m sorry JOG, I don't understand the difference between Hillary and Trump.


I'm not able to argue about that. He HAS supported her. So, what is different? Has either of them changed? How was he able to stand up for her and agree with HER, supporting her campaign, before, and Now she's the bad guy...
And, if He has changed in his ideology, where?
I'm not happy with any of the options. IF Cruz is for real, then he would literally change the course of America.
Trump, I don't see it working out well.
His ideas on how people can or cannot criticize, open the First Amendment,,
Bragging about buying politicians.
IF he believes that is how it works, then if it's okay to Buy a politician, then As a politician, isn't it okay to be for sale?
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Reply #29 - 03/20/16 at 16:31:24
 
where's the COMMON MAN candidate?

In my lifetime I have yet to see a single commoner/serf/slave make or run for public office.
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