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Re: New cam chain or not?
Reply #15 - 02/23/16 at 19:45:14
 
Question? The rear break is squealing every so often! Is this just a dust problem or with 27,000+ miles is it time for new brake pads. I know! Just remove the wheel and take a look! Guess I will just have to build that bike stand after all!
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Reply #21 - 02/23/16 at 20:18:59
 
hawk41 wrote on 02/23/16 at 19:45:14:
Question? The rear break is squealing every so often! Is this just a dust problem or with 27,000+ miles is it time for new brake pads. I know! Just remove the wheel and take a look! Guess I will just have to build that bike stand after all!

I DO wish that the S40 had a center stand. It made life SOOOOO much easier......
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Reply #22 - 02/23/16 at 20:28:18
 
A center stand would certainly come in handy. I bought one of those hydraulic motorcycle lifts from Harbor Freight so that I could do some minor work on my last bike, a 94 Yamaha Virago 535 bobber project. It was on the lift for quite some time during the heat of summer and when it was time to take it off the lift, it had frozen in the up position. Had to tear the thing apart just to get the bike down. What a piece of junk.
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Re: New cam chain or not?
Reply #23 - 02/23/16 at 20:32:12
 
old.indian wrote on 02/23/16 at 20:18:59:
hawk41 wrote on 02/23/16 at 19:45:14:
Question? The rear break is squealing every so often! Is this just a dust problem or with 27,000+ miles is it time for new brake pads. I know! Just remove the wheel and take a look! Guess I will just have to build that bike stand after all!

I DO wish that the S40 had a center stand. It made life SOOOOO much easier......

got an owners manual?
if not grab a copy in the tech section (see index)
on pg 54 it shows you how to tell how much rear brake you got.
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Reply #24 - 02/23/16 at 21:23:06
 
Thanks! Found page 54 and checked the index line on my bike. The extension line is pointing to the very right hand tip of the index line. Logic indicates that the bike has new rear brake pads, right? Unfortunately, I have been wrong before. If they are indeed new brake pads, is there a simple remedy for the squeal?
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Reply #25 - 02/24/16 at 04:01:49
 
The rear shoes never seem to wear out - they do get dirty, and unfortunately when you wash your bike (or it gets rained on), the brake drum is holding water inside as the sidestand is tipping the bike over to the right side.  The rust gets scraped off the brake drum and gets embedded into the brake shoes.....and they get squeally.  (It is very important not to wash your bike and let it sit....you need to ride it for 10 minutes to get the water out of the nooks and crannys).

Take the rear wheel off, clean any rust and dirt off the drum with emery cloth or steel wool, then do the same with the brake shoes.

Here is a link that shows what you can expect in a bike that has been in storage and not ridden for a few years. Go to post #10 and you can see what the rear drum looked like....if I had ridden the bike before cleaning the drum - the rust would have contaminated the shoes.
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Reply #26 - 02/24/16 at 04:40:04
 
Those "Meds " are available at the local Bottle Barn. Being a mechanic at heart, regardless of ability, I find myself reaching for a screwdriver, late in the day, and I just plain Like a few dark beers.

Hire someone, pay for their tools. Getting in and out of the clutch cover is not a big deal. A 1/4" drive socket set, ratchet, I'd want an extension and wobble, cuz I like having stuff.
A set of metric wrenches,
The through bolts that hold the pegs, and sidestand, have to come off, so, blocking up under the frame to keep it standing is needed. IIRC, I  used a come-along , rafter in the shop, rope on the frame. Tank off, which is a hassle, but that is just how I do stuff..
If you decide to pull the tank prepare a place to set it down first.
The speedo cable doesn't look like it would not appreciate the load, I want at least six inches for it to curve.

I MAY have gotten everything off and slipped the through bolts in and put the sidestand back on, so access to the engine guts are easier to get at.
One chain guide is replaceable without going too deep. Might need to get the head cover off, I can't remember.
Exhaust has to come off. It's not technically difficult, doesn't take a lot of tools.
The labor costs saved will buy the tools and leave money in your pocket.
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Reply #27 - 02/24/16 at 08:47:04
 
I think a few members have indicated they did the verslavy with the bike laying on its side?
'Didn't even have to drain the oil, IIRC
the bike lifts easy with a come along and a tree, or even a ratchet strap
Hell, I regularly picked the back end of mine up and set it on a block Once, in a testosterone and adrenaline induced moment of desperation and courage (and probably stupidity) I lifted the whole fool bike out of the back of a truck all by my lonesome, though I wouldn't recommend anyone else try it  Grin
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Reply #28 - 02/24/16 at 12:08:19
 
Great info & advice guys! This morning I was finishing up the title paperwork with the seller, and, although he was not able to give me any contact info of the guy he bought it from, he did say it was an older gentleman who was a mechanic. That makes sense as one of the first mods I did was to drill holes in the stock muffler to get at least a better sound. When I went to remove the plug over the idle mixture screw I found it had already been removed. I doubt that it fell out by itself. Along with the new rear brakes and there appears to have been a new gasket installed (just a bit showing) on the side case (shifter side), it may be that other important work has been completed. My curiosity has been aroused so I will bite the bullet and check out the cam chain myself. I will let you know what I find. Wouldn't it be a "hoot" if a Versy has been already installed?
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Reply #29 - 03/11/16 at 13:21:30
 
Well! Removed the side case today and found that the cam chain adjuster was about maxed out but the cam chain seems to be OK. Ordered a Versy and am anxious to get back on the road again.  Smiley
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