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Hi, I hope some expert can help here. I have a serious (head?) problem. The 2005 S40 starter keeps turning over, with the right-handlebar switch off & key off & removed.
This happened once before with an old savage I had & scared the hell out of me. It miraculously stopped before the little men in their white coats appeared.
Because of the Savage problem, I 'knew' it was the stuck points in the starter solenoid under the seat behind the ignition switch that was the problem, as a new one  rectified the Savage hassles.

WRONG! After doing what I thought was a darned good job (I even replaced the bottom bolt of the new solenoid without removing the airbox intake!) & before I attached the left side cover & seat, I touched the earth terminal to the battery to connect it. Away churns the starter again & I don't have the dough to get a mechanic onto it.
The wife says – 'You might not need to sell it just yet. It wasn't doing this before you changed the handlebars !'
She's right, but how right, and what could I possibly have done that alters the flamin' starter??

when trouble shooting, always undo the last thing you did prior to the trouble.

remove the control from the bar, there maybe a bear wire under there... or a dead cat.

So... it wasn't the starter relay.  there have been a few fried decomp controllers that did the same thing.


hell, 1 post? where you been?

KennyG  'I think it is time for you to take the switch off of the handle bar and start looking over the switch and wiring.'

Are you telling me that the red switch on the r/h bar is always live to the starter when the key is not in the ignition??
Inside that switch assmbly is like brand new. Don't think it has ever been opened 'til now.
This 2005 S40 had one elderly owner b4 I bought it a year back. It had done 19,000kms. The bike condition is like it has just come off the salesroom floor. Mint.

I know that there is a place on the decompression solenoid controller that IF you put twelve volts to it, it Will fire the starter over, even if it is in gear, sidestand down, Key in your pocket.
I Wanna say it's the Second wire from the left, standing behind the bike, looking forward.
And,there is a single red , always hot, wire,running right close to it
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Slipstream wrote on 02/22/16 at 18:23:38:

the decomp controller is the black box that sits on top of the carb.  didn't find anything on testing it.

But, the first rule is, if work gets done and Now you've got a problem, inspect the work.

Thanks Kennyg, ; I found no cat fur in there & not even a spec of dust   Yes, gotta check it out. Everything looks as new in there, so for the time being I'll say to myself it is in working cond.

Thanks to Justin.

To v-pilot, you say 'So... it wasn't the starter relay.  there have been a few fried decomp controllers that did the same thing.'
So if it is fried & I try to connect the batt terminal back on, the starter can start turning? With the key in my pocket?

Thanks for the diagrams.

I have to check out Savageman & then I have to check out verslagen.....
I really don't know what to do as so many statements are thrown to me. When I get time ill empty the petrol & remove the tank again. How bloody depressing is this

Hi SAVAGEMAN,
you said-- ' If you disconnect the decompression controller (under the tank, top of carburetor) and the starter shuts off then that should be a sure sign it is bad. ' Answer = starter still activates.

'Use a voltmeter and check the 2 small pins on the starter solenoid. Should be 0 volts when the starter button is not pressed.
Answer = Yep, zero volts.
Thanks for that elimination.