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Reply #30 - 02/03/16 at 11:24:18

well let's see, Hillary Clinton could afford that, Chelsea Clinton could afford that, Bernie Sanders could afford that, Martin O'Malley could afford that, Joe Biden could afford that, George Soros could afford that, Sean Penn could afford that, Barbra Streisand could afford that, Matt Damon could afford that, any of the Kennedys could before that, Nancy Peluosi could afford that, Harry Reid afford that ...I think you see my point.

there's all kinds of medical procedures only a very few can afford and that's not going to change even if Obamacare progresses to its natural conclusion. Do you think the rich people in England rely solely on their socialize medicine?

I agree it certainly seems unfair but I ask you, what is the alternative? Take the profit motive away from research and development and research and development will dry up.

there's a fine line between what you see as compassion and what others see as destroying the invisible hand that runs the economy. that goes for healthcare too. Once you start putting dollar limits on how much is a fair compensation then you started down a slippery slope of that literally and figuratively ends at the bottom. You think you want to go there but you really don't. And you certainly wouldn't if you were on the other end of the slide! It's easy advocating taking someone else's money.

Like I always say to you who want to take more money from people you consider to be too wealthy, go hang out at a Ruth Chris steakhouse and ask somebody dressed in a nice suit for 50 bucks when he comes out the door. have the courage to cut out the middleman and do the job yourself.

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Reply #32 - 02/03/16 at 17:13:25

WebsterMark wrote on 02/03/16 at 06:08:08:

If you think I'm being condescending it's probably because I'm laughing so hard that somebody actually thinks there's a cure for cancer but it's being hidden away so pharmaceuticals and hospitals can make money.

I know 3 people personally that have cancer and have been told to go through unnecessary chemo treatments, unnecessary surgery, and drug treatments that were literally 15,000% higher than what the appropriate rate was.

I'm not laughing as one is a family member & another is a person I would with so pharmaceuticals and hospitals can make money.

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Reply #33 - 02/03/16 at 17:17:18

Serowbot wrote on 02/03/16 at 09:37:35:

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I know Trump could... but, not many others...

Well, here are a few....

http://freebeacon.com/politics/more-democrats-than-republicans-sit-on-10-rich...

More Democrats than Republicans Sit on 10 Richest Members of Congress List
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BY: Stephanie Wang
January 15, 2014 4:59 am

While Republicans often get the reputation for being “the party of the rich,” seven of the 10 richest members of Congress are Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP).

CRP compiled a list of the 10 richest members of Congress using 2012 personal finance disclosure information, the latest available.

These wealthy Democrats are not afraid to use their big bucks and high-powered connections to get ahead.

Here are the seven Democrats in the top 10 list:

Mark Warner
Mark WarnerMark Warner / AP
Mark Warner, the senior senator from Virginia, is the richest member of the Senate. CRP estimates his net worth at up to $418,742,000. Warner used his political connections to make his millions, according to the 2014 Almanac of American Politics.

Warner worked as a fundraiser at the Democratic National Convention after graduating from law school. While there, he made some crucial connections that would allow him to become a successful venture capitalist.

Warner served as chairman of the Virginia Democratic Party from 1993-1995. He was elected governor of Virginia in 2000.

Jared Polis
Jared PolisJared Polis / AP
Jared Polis, who serves as representative to Colorado’s 2nd District, has a net worth of up to $326,099,998, according to CRP.

Polis made his fortune as an entrepreneur, launching popular sites such as electronic greeting card site bluemountainarts.com and fresh flower delivery site proflowers.com.

The retired florist (Polis still hands out business cards with that title) came to Washington in 2008 and is currently serving his third term.

Polis criticized the Citizens United case on the House floor in 2010, saying corporations are using their money to “confuse and trick people” with “massive and misleading public relations attacks.” He made no mention of how he uses his own money, Vincent Carroll of the Denver Post noted.

His political committee, for example, gave out more than $400,000 to other members of Congress and national campaign groups in 2010 alone.

John K. Delaney
John DelaneyJohn Delaney / AP
The net worth of John K. Delaney of Maryland’s 6th District is up to $244,051,998.

Delaney founded Healthcare Financial Partners, a company that offered financing to healthcare providers, in 1993 and served as the company’s CEO until 2000 when he founded a new company, CapitalSource, another commercial lender for small and middle-market companies.

Delaney is serving his first term in Congress. Two high-powered friends, Bill and Hillary Clinton, helped Delaney win his seat. Delaney donated to Hillary’s 2008 campaign and also bundled contributions for her campaign. Bill Clinton then endorsed Delaney in his primary.

Scott Peters
Scott PetersScott Peters / Wikimedia Commons
Scott Peters, of California’s 2nd District has a net worth of up to $197,415,991.

Peters was a successful lawyer for 16 years, eventually opening his own practice. His wife was successful in private equity.

He was elected to San Diego City Council in 2000 and became the city’s port commissioner in 2009.

The self-proclaimed environmentalist became embroiled in controversy when it was revealed that his personal water consumption was eight times higher than the average consumer. Peters defended his consumption, arguing his property is much larger than the average consumer.

Richard Blumenthal
Richard BlumenthalRichard Blumenthal / AP
Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut’s senior senator, has a net worth of up to $121,299,056.

The second-richest man in the Senate was born to wealthy parents in New York. He held a number of political positions, including U.S. attorney in Connecticut, administrative assistant to a Sen. Abraham Ribicoff, and a staff assistant to the White House Office of Economic Opportunity, before running for Senate in 2010. Much of his wealth comes from his wife, Cynthia, who is the daughter of real estate tycoon Peter Malkin.

Jay Rockefeller
Jay RockefellerJay Rockefeller / AP
Jay Rockefeller, senior senator from West Virginia, has an estimated net worth of up to $139,312,004.

Rockefeller is currently serving his fifth term in the Senate. He was elected in 1984 after serving in the West Virginia House, as West Virginia secretary of state, and as the state’s governor.

Rocherfeller’s great-grandfather was oil billionaire John D. Rockefeller, who was at one time America’s richest man.

Nancy Pelosi
Nancy PelosiNancy Pelosi / AP
CRP estimates the net worth of Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California’s 12th District to be up to $174,947,989.

Pelosi’s husband is a successful real estate investor. The couple also made up to $5 million in offshore investments in Asia.

Pelosi was elected to the House of Representatives in 1987. Prior to her time in the House, she served as the California Democratic Party northern chairman, the state chairman of California, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chairman.

The former House Speaker, who often claims to be a champion for the poor, spends her money on lavish vacations. She spent Christmas 2011 at a Four Seasons Hotel in Hawaii, where rooms run up to $10,000 per night.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29382 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Interesting read....... Reply #34 - 02/03/16 at 17:39:08 Even split... http://media.cq.com/50Richest/...but, missing the point entirely...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Interesting read....... Reply #35 - 02/03/16 at 18:41:25 Both sides are sucking the marrow out of the bones of America. Unless we have a REAL change in policy, America is finished.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29382 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Interesting read....... Reply #36 - 02/03/16 at 21:24:22 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/03/16 at 18:41:25: America is finished. How many years have you been saying that?.. Better yet,... how many years has that been said?... Change, is not death,... stagnation is death...
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Reply #38 - 02/04/16 at 05:09:12

Serowbot wrote on 02/03/16 at 21:24:22:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/03/16 at 18:41:25:

America is finished.

How many years have you been saying that?..

Better yet,... how many years has that been said?... Huh

I think this is what JOG is referring to.

But our economy is not producing many of those jobs. Instead, most of the growth has been in low paying service jobs. The Middle class in the United States is being slowly but surely shredded, and our politicians don’t seem to care. If you doubt that the middle class is falling apart, just check out the following numbers which come from my previous article entitled “Sayonara Middle Class: 22 Stunning Pieces Of Evidence That Show The Middle Class In America Is Dying“…

#1 This week we learned that for the first time ever recorded, middle class Americans make up a minority of the population. But back in 1971, 61 percent of all Americans lived in middle class households.

#2 According to the Pew Research Center, the median income of middle class households declined by 4 percent from 2000 to 2014.

#3 The Pew Research Center has also found that median wealth for middle class households dropped by an astounding 28 percent between 2001 and 2013.

#4 In 1970, the middle class took home approximately 62 percent of all income. Today, that number has plummeted to just 43 percent.

#5 There are still 900,000 fewer middle class jobs in America than there were when the last recession began, but our population has gotten significantly larger since that time.

#6 According to the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

#7 For the poorest 20 percent of all Americans, median household wealth declined from negative 905 dollars in 2000 to negative 6,029 dollars in 2011.

#8 A recent nationwide survey discovered that 48 percent of all U.S. adults under the age of 30 believe that “the American Dream is dead”.

#9 At this point, the U.S. only ranks 19th in the world when it comes to median wealth per adult.

#10 Traditionally, entrepreneurship has been one of the engines that has fueled the growth of the middle class in the United States, but today the level of entrepreneurship in this country is sitting at an all-time low.

#11 If you can believe it, the 20 wealthiest people in this country now have more money than the poorest 152 million Americans combined.

#12 The top 0.1 percent of all American families have about as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent of all American families combined.

#13 If you have no debt and you also have ten dollars in your pocket, that gives you a greater net worth than about 25 percent of all Americans.

#14 The number of Americans that are living in concentrated areas of high poverty has doubled since the year 2000.

#15 An astounding 48.8 percent of all 25-year-old Americans still live at home with their parents.

#16 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49 percent of all Americans now live in a home that receives money from the government each month, and nearly 47 million Americans are living in poverty right now.

#17 In 2007, about one out of every eight children in America was on food stamps. Today, that number is one out of every five.

#18 According to Kathryn J. Edin and H. Luke Shaefer, the authors of a new book entitled “$2.00 a Day: Living on Almost Nothing in America“, there are 1.5 million “ultrapoor” households in the United States that live on less than two dollars a day. That number has doubled since 1996.

#19 46 million Americans use food banks each year, and lines start forming at some U.S. food banks as early as 6:30 in the morning because people want to get something before the food supplies run out.

#20 The number of homeless children in the U.S. has increased by 60 percent over the past six years.

#21 According to Poverty USA, 1.6 million American children slept in a homeless shelter or some other form of emergency housing last year.

#22 The median net worth of families in the United States was $137, 955 in 2007. Today, it is just $82,756.

So is there a solution?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-30/rise-temp-economy-more-us-employers-...

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Reply #39 - 02/04/16 at 22:16:17

I've pointed out the downward spiral. I've talked about impending doom. We fail HERE to achieve a REAL change in policy to start to rectify the NAFTA disaster and all the other trade agreements, we step back from the endless war for the military industrial complex, we stop raping the People, THIS ELECTION, or the Chance to change will be gone.
America will be finished.

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