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Re: What about it, Bot?
Reply #15 - 01/19/16 at 21:58:31
 
and it is good
too bad more don't
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Reply #16 - 01/20/16 at 04:43:19
 
So bot, I don't think many believers equate atheist as immoral, I believe that is your perception.
As to morals themselves, they are subjective depending on cultural beliefs. You have stated your objective is to remove any politicians who use God as their moral compass. Is that action passive and witness to what you just said?

Since the Muslim faith is a hot topic, would you extend to those who adopt the sharia element, their moral right based upon their moral beliefs to stone homosexuals, etc?

When your moral tenants are infringed, what is your course of actions?

Would you agree that your participation here is in fact an extension of your moral beliefs?

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Reply #17 - 01/20/16 at 06:27:40
 
That's a good answer, Bot.
And you've seen me mention my atheist friend.
Absolutely the most ethical guy I've known until I met a friend here. Id say they are tied. Morality, ethics, much greater than nearly all of the alleged Christians I've known AND probably me.

All that said, maybe you should do some more digging into the abortion thing. Don't think those babies don't suffer.
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Reply #18 - 01/20/16 at 07:59:21
 
raydawg wrote on 01/20/16 at 04:43:19:
When your moral tenants are infringed, what is your course of actions?

My morals are not guided by religious dogma...
If my actions hurt innocents, they are immoral.
I believe this to be a universally agreeable position.
If someone's religion requires that they hurt others, it is not their right to do so.  This is the purpose of separating church and state...
Many tenets of religion are morally universal and good, and we all follow them.  Those that are not,.. and infringe on the rights of others should not be imposed by legislation.

Dat'z my story, n' I'm stickin' toit... Tongue...

Do somethin' good for somebody today...
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Reply #19 - 01/20/16 at 10:41:06
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/20/16 at 07:59:21:
raydawg wrote on 01/20/16 at 04:43:19:
When your moral tenants are infringed, what is your course of actions?

My morals are not guided by religious dogma...
If my actions hurt innocents, they are immoral.
I believe this to be a universally agreeable position.
If someone's religion requires that they hurt others, it is not their right to do so.  This is the purpose of separating church and state...
Many tenets of religion are morally universal and good, and we all follow them.  Those that are not,.. and infringe on the rights of others should not be imposed by legislation.

Dat'z my story, n' I'm stickin' toit... Tongue...

Do somethin' good for somebody today...
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Thanks  Cheesy

Do you think dogma only exist in the religious beliefs?

What, if any, actions should be visited upon those who do not hold your universal morally good beliefs?
You didn't address that in your reply, thanks.
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Reply #20 - 01/20/16 at 10:56:06
 
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If someone's religion requires that they hurt others, it is not their right to do so.  This is the purpose of separating church and state...
Many tenets of religion are morally universal and good, and we all follow them.  Those that are not,.. and infringe on the rights of others should not be imposed by legislation.


Yet you see no problem with inviting hordes of so-called "refugees" in to this country whose religious beliefs require, or at the very least, condone, exactly that.?
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Reply #21 - 01/20/16 at 11:10:14
 
I don't need a God to tell me to be moral...
I am a a human being... I have moral character... no god needed...


No other life form exhibits a moral character except human beings. In fact, the ironic thing is the law of the jungle is.......there is no law.  

I remember seeing a show on TV one time about chimps. The whole show was the usual 'chimps are our closest relative etc....' but then they showed a scene where adult male chimps ripped a baby chimp from it's mothers arms, tore it to pieces and ate the body until there was literally nothing left. The show then struggled to explain this by equating the chimps behavior to how we treat children, how we murder one another and of course how the rich steal from the poor.

The obvious answer as to why the male chimps ate the baby is........they are animals! Duh.... They did it to force the female into heat, they did it to protect their food supply, they did it for any number of reasons, but whatever the reason, it has nothing to do with how human beings act towards one another.

The point is Sew and other atheist, you should consider that there is an enormous gulf that exist between humans and every other life form on earth. Nothing is remotely close to us. Nothing. A newborn baby quickly gains more intelligence than the smartest monkey, whale, dolphin or whatever the smartest animal of the week is.

Given how easily we succumb to the environment when we are left to our own physical devices, (everyone should watch the TV show Naked and Afraid) it seems impossible that we could have evolved to where we are today.
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Reply #22 - 01/20/16 at 12:22:25
 
And that brings back Another point.


Since Evolution is a mechanism that allows creatures to adapt To the environment and be more able to survive In the environment, what happened to cause man to abandon his Natural pelt and Suddenly require him to seek shelter, build shelter, and need to expend valuable time and energy to build clothing?

Seems like a bad idea to me.
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Reply #23 - 01/20/16 at 13:09:12
 
WebsterMark wrote on 01/20/16 at 11:10:14:
A newborn baby quickly gains more intelligence than the smartest monkey, whale, dolphin or whatever the smartest animal of the week is.

My dog could walk, run, feed himself, and was housebroken at 8 weeks...
Beat that humanity... Grin

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/16 at 12:22:25:
... what happened to cause man to abandon his Natural pelt and Suddenly require him to seek shelter, build shelter, and need to expend valuable time and energy to build clothing?

'Cause we're really aliens from Mars... this ain't our natural habitat... Huh
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Reply #24 - 01/20/16 at 13:29:13
 
My turn yet bot?  Grin
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Reply #25 - 01/20/16 at 14:30:32
 
Do you think dogma only exist in the religious beliefs?
Noop...
What, if any, actions should be visited upon those who do not hold your universal morally good beliefs?
Bonk'em on the head 'till they see straight... Grin
You didn't address that in your reply, thanks.
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Reply #26 - 01/20/16 at 15:12:03
 
what happened to cause man to abandon his Natural pelt and Suddenly require him to seek shelter, build shelter, and need to expend valuable time and energy to build clothing?

'Cause we're really aliens from Mars... this ain't our natural habitat... Huh

IOW, the evolutionists theory can't explain it.
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Reply #27 - 01/20/16 at 17:03:49
 
IOW... in other words...

I had to Google it... guess I'm not too evolved... Grin
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Reply #28 - 01/20/16 at 17:58:15
 
Is it there yet?
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Reply #29 - 01/20/16 at 18:19:09
 

My dog could walk, run, feed himself, and was housebroken at 8 weeks...
Beat that humanity...

And yet he's your pet.....

You could beat him and lock him in a trunk for an hour and he'd lick your face when you opened it.
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