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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? 01/15/16 at 03:32:57 He's got talent.....shame that he wasted it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humZvaGnlsw
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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #1 - 01/15/16 at 06:58:14 agreed, the workmanship looks great, but the bike as a whole is crap
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5836 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #2 - 01/15/16 at 07:18:10 Yea , that is a real rat bike ! I think it might be neat to put a 20-25 hp Diesel on a Savage frame when the original motor gives out. Maybe with a tork-converter drive. That would be about as "Rattie" as I could go ! Trouble is : Finding a Tork-Converter drive to handle 25 Hp. that don't cost as much as a good used bike .
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #3 - 01/15/16 at 07:36:30 One project I have always wanted to do.......is take an early Mazda Miata that is simple and light, and put a small 3 or 4 cylinder diesel motor in it. It wouldn't be very quick - but I imagine 50 mpg wouldn't be out of the question.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #4 - 01/15/16 at 08:29:47 Redneck Batman called...
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Reply #5 - 01/15/16 at 11:56:05

Dave wrote on 01/15/16 at 07:36:30:

One project I have always wanted to do.......is take an early Mazda Miata that is simple and light, and put a small 3 or 4 cylinder diesel motor in it.

It wouldn't be very quick - but I imagine 50 mpg wouldn't be out of the question.

I just bought a Mazda6 about 3 weeks ago. It averages 41 mpg so far.

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Reply #6 - 01/15/16 at 12:29:15

Maybe someday he will get that engine sorted out - but my guess is the "twin turbo" setup really isn't needed for that small diesel....and likely he is just dumping too much fuel and not enough air into the engine. I doubt if the little engine ever gets enough exhaust flowing to spin the turbos up to where they will make any boost.

But.....it looks "Bad A$$"! Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - 01/15/16 at 17:19:07

Dave wrote on 01/15/16 at 12:29:15:

Maybe someday he will get that engine sorted out - but my guess is the "twin turbo" setup really isn't needed for that small diesel....and likely he is just dumping too much fuel and not enough air into the engine. I doubt if the little engine ever gets enough exhaust flowing to spin the turbos up to where they will make any boost.

But.....it looks like a mechanical abortion

fixed that for ya Wink

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Reply #8 - 01/15/16 at 17:28:44

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Dave wrote on Today at 15:29:15:
Maybe someday he will get that engine sorted out - but my guess is the "twin turbo" setup really isn't needed for that small diesel....and likely he is just dumping too much fuel and not enough air into the engine. I doubt if the little engine ever gets enough exhaust flowing to spin the turbos up to where they will make any boost.

That certainly seems to be the case and I also wonder if the engine is sized correctly for the hydraulic pumps and motors.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #9 - 01/15/16 at 19:21:15 Why build such a monstrosity? I understand the DIY attitude but that thing doesn't look like it would be good at anything. It's not even pretty.
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Reply #10 - 01/15/16 at 19:44:56

Some really creative thinking and good work. I'm glad I didn't put the time and money in it, because, frankly, I know I can have a Savage that is a lot more fun to ride and I could be across town in a lot less time and I could buy used,mod it, ride the snot outta the thing and have a bucket of cash left.
I hope he gets it running right.
If it was my problem to solve I'd run some air into the intake.
Looks like it is just rich.

I'm with the
Doesn't need a twin turbo setup
Crowd. Since he has a compressor and tanks, why not a trigger when coming off low throttle to dump compressed air into the exhaust and spool up the turbocharger? Or would it solve itself dropping to one turbo?

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #11 - 01/16/16 at 06:55:10 drop to one small turbo that'd spool properly and that'd solve the over fueling problem Like the rest of that monstrosity, it's the result of 'engineering' for 'bragging rights' rather than for any useful purpose
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #12 - 01/16/16 at 07:02:58 It's Over designed and Under Engineered.
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old_rider Serious Thumper Offline Backyard Bill Productions Posts: 3147 flordia panhandle Gender:	Re: Smoker Motorcycle.....Why? Reply #13 - 01/16/16 at 23:26:21 Most of the "Rat" crowd don't really care about aesthetics or even function. As long as it runs (even a little) and looks rusty, its kewl !!
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Reply #14 - 01/17/16 at 07:21:45

What's actually funny is they insist, in the rat rod (car) crowd, that that's how hot rodding really was in the 40s
My old man was around then, and he'd laugh himself sick at the idea that a 'rat rod' was a true 1940s hot rod
"nope" he'd say "we called those 'jalopies' it had to be held together with more than spit and bailing wire to get 'hot rod' status"
The rat bike crown is even worse
This bike is more 'steam punk' though,complexicated just for the sake of complexification

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