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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5836 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #45 - 01/22/16 at 18:00:42 Kris I wanted a 80 series all along . But Choices in 145/80-15 are very slim . Choices in 145/65-15 are comparable wide . I (now) don't think that a 65 series would even work on a tubeless rim !
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #46 - 01/22/16 at 19:20:44 I'm sure you'll be happy with the 140/90. I like it because it drops the rpms a little (~200) at 65 mph.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5836 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #47 - 01/22/16 at 20:45:56 Kris 4.4% is enough to notice ! https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=140-80r15-140-90r15 Hay Kris did I ask you yet if your going to TX. in April ?
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #48 - 01/22/16 at 22:03:57 You do notice it at first but then you get used to it and it becomes "normal". The 140/90 really should've been the stock tire, especially since there are what? 2? choices of tires in a 140/80 size? I won't be able to make it to Tx. You guys meeting up? My older brother lives in Wascom. Say hello for me!
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Re: Dark siding again
Reply #49 - 01/22/16 at 22:27:25

Kris01 wrote on 01/22/16 at 22:03:57:

You do notice it at first but then you get used to it and it becomes "normal". The 140/90 really should've been the stock tire, especially since there are what? 2? choices of tires in a 140/80 size?

I won't be able to make it to Tx. You guys meeting up? My older brother lives in Wascom. Say hello for me! Grin

S' Ok.... try for one of the NC meet ups! I'm not sure i'll make it to Texas this year either....

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Reply #50 - 01/23/16 at 07:50:20

Kris01 wrote on 01/22/16 at 17:33:27:

I'm curious why you chose a 145/65-15. That tire is nearly 1.4" shorter than stock (or 2.5" shorter than a 140/90-15).

I wondered the same thing, a 135 / 80 would have made MUCH better sense imo, and they aren't too hard to find
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=135%2F&ratio=80&dia...
not cheap but it'll last

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #51 - 01/23/16 at 07:53:08 another, and it is cheap, relatively speaking https://www.cokertire.com/tires/firestone-f560.html
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Reply #52 - 01/23/16 at 08:36:49

Art

I don't know if you noticed or not but :

That Firestone tire comes in ... you ready for this .... it comes in 145R13 . That is only 22 inches diameter . That is almost SuperScooter diameter. I wasn't thinking it through when I got that little 65 series tire but two years from now will be looking for anonther tire and that 145R15 looks good. 24.3" diameter looks good too !

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badwolf Serious Thumper Offline Ridin' my Lil' Bagger - 153k miles so far Posts: 802 Palm Beach County, FL Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #53 - 01/23/16 at 09:06:37 That Firestone in 145/15 is the one that the bead would NOT come up on my aluminum tubeless rim, got stuck so bad I had to cut it off & throw it away. There may be a slight difference in dimensions tween car & bike rims.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #54 - 01/23/16 at 09:18:29 I broke the bead on a Firestone 155x15, slicing my left wrist wide open when it happened. I am no longer a fan of Firestone darksider tires, in other words.
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Reply #55 - 01/23/16 at 10:17:16

The only one I had an easy experience with was a : Goodyear Eagle GT 145/80-15. It seated with less than 50 lbs and lasted 25,000 miles (35lbs) before I lowered the air-pressure (22lbs) and took it Dragon Hunting . It survived the Dragon but on the way home on the interstate I found it had ripped cords. So It limped on home at 55 and 60.

It was replaced with a Mitchellin Commander II that lasted 25+K miles

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Reply #56 - 01/24/16 at 07:28:25

I did notice it comes in a size that might fit my scoot, if it weren't a 78 aspect ratio
The SW uses a 70 series on the rear (150/70/13)
If I try a car tire it'd be a 145/70/13, that's as close as I think you can get
I think for actual scooter tires the SW forum recommends a Michelin Power Pure IIRC, good grip, long wear (for a scooter tire) and flexi side walls that make it easy (relatively) to mount yourself
their darkside forum requires you be invited in, so I dunno what the car tire guys recomend

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #57 - 01/24/16 at 07:54:14 Restricted invite needed for the darksider discussion -- must be tired of all the "you're gonna put your eye out" comments.
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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Dark siding again Reply #58 - 01/24/16 at 08:07:05 I'd imagine so, a few folks there are 'use what the factory put on it and nothing else! types
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Re: Dark siding again
Reply #59 - 01/24/16 at 09:25:42

My 74 year old neighbor went darkside on the back of his 650 Burghman, and he has over 100,000 miles on it. One problem for his is the front tire, as he just can't find a front tire that lasts very long.

His front end was giving him a really harsh ride, and after a bit of diagnosis we found that the sag on his bike was too big, and when he sat on his bike 2/3rds of his fork travel was gone. We bought some stronger springs from Progressive and installed Emulators.....and it now rides a lot nicer.

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