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01/01/16 at 09:55:52
 
I ordered a new tire for the S-40.   I've had Yokohama tires on my truck before with good results --- should be here in a few days !  Smiley

http://www.bigotires.com/Tire-Detail/YOKOHAMA/AVID-ENVIGOR/25850
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Reply #1 - 01/01/16 at 10:45:24
 
I've had the thought  Huh   ---   will the lower profile be less sensitive to sidewall flexing and cord damage ???
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Reply #2 - 01/02/16 at 02:22:51
 

MM,

Remember, the squattier the car tire profile the harder it is to get a car tire bead to pop over the motorcycle rim.

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Remember, you use that sidewall height / flexibility to make it work, so doing away with a lot of that means a more rigid, inflexible tire.    

And I think you will find Japanese sports car tires have very firm carcasses compared to what you used last time.

Pick a tire that will go in the envelope, but don't go super super short on the profile as it will make harder job mounting and be less conforming in hard turns.

In the end, it is all a big experiment ......   I suspect any tire that will pop over the properly greased bead will actually work OK as our Savage demands very little of a tire compared to a 2 ton (500 pound per tire) 150 mph front drive car tire that goes jest a squealing and a smokin' while drifting around a tight corner.

Looking forward to seeing it on the back of your bike.
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Reply #3 - 01/04/16 at 08:21:23
 
Hay, the new tire came today .    I'm a little surprised how round the profile is .

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Reply #4 - 01/04/16 at 08:27:01
 
And you may find that the "roundness" becomes even more so when you squeeze that tire onto a rim that is only 2.75" wide......most likely it was made for a much wider rim.
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Reply #5 - 01/04/16 at 09:28:14
 
It will ,   the natural stance for the rim with is about 4.5" .   Its refereed to as a "Rain and Snow" tire.    

I've got the Harley in my shop now with the fuel tank off.   The tank is in the kitchen now.  I just polished on the third layer of primer and am waiting on a warmer day to put some real paint on it.   All the decals aren't here yet either.

Then the S-40 goes in for a tire change.!    I'll take pictures of the mounting .   Was thinking of using a narrow trim brush and a bottle of STP to help it seat .   Question is .... Will the tire absorb the STP over time ?   If not I'll use Grease like I've done before .

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Reply #6 - 01/04/16 at 09:50:19
 
Go to your nearest tire store or "old school service station" and see if they will give you some RU-GLYDE (or I can send you some).  It is made for mounting tires and is so much better than all the other stuff I have tried.  
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Reply #7 - 01/04/16 at 11:25:10
 
Thanks for the "Tip" Dave  

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Lubricant-Tire-Mount...

somehow I suspect this stuff is good for a lot of things
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Reply #8 - 01/04/16 at 12:48:34
 
Yeah...I had to buy the gallon jug as well, that is the smallest size they sell.

When you are mounting the tire it could dry out a bit as you are working ...just take a small brush and add some more if it loses the slippery.
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Reply #9 - 01/04/16 at 16:54:42
 
say it's  slippery  ???   Tongue

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HOW SLIPPERY IS IT ? Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - 01/04/16 at 18:28:10
 
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Reply #11 - 01/04/16 at 19:18:55
 
What size tire?
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Reply #12 - 01/04/16 at 19:29:06
 
Kris

this one is a  : AVID  ENVigor  145/65-15  
I'll mount it soon as I get my Harley out of my shop , hate to have both bikes down at the same time.  Roll Eyes

The last one was a GoodYear Eagle GT 145/80-15  and it mounted with (best I remember) 50-ish lbs. and some grease .  

This time I'll use this regular tire mounting lube.   Shocked   dang !!! I almost feel like a profesional !!!  Grin

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Reply #13 - 01/04/16 at 19:48:01
 

One side will pop on with the tire lube, the other side will have a section THAT JEST WILL NOT POP -- grease is the only path to take then.

You can cut off the excess rubber lip material (it gets in the way) so it looks and fits more like a motorcycle bead fits.

Nice looking tire -- how much?

I paid $35 for my first one, my second one cost $51 after taxes (if my feeble 'ol memory is serving at all).

I suspect tires will cost more and more and more each time I buy them.
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Reply #14 - 01/04/16 at 19:56:16
 
That tire is over 1.25" shorter than stock. That will really influence your gearing. Just FYI.
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