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12/27/15 at 19:29:43
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-czech-leader-calls-migrant-wave-in-europe-...

He went on to say that compassion was "possible" for refugees who are old or sick and for children, but not for young men who in his view should be back home fighting against jihadists.

"A large majority of the illegal migrants are young men in good health, and single. I wonder why these men are not taking up arms to go fight for the freedom of their countries against the Islamic State," said Zeman, who was elected Czech president in early 2013.

But, ya can't argue with stupid or politically correct.
Wait. That's redundant.
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Reply #1 - 12/27/15 at 19:36:51
 
he does have a point.

but, there are those who seek peace having lived in that violence their entire lives.

let them eat cake I guess.
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Reply #2 - 12/27/15 at 21:02:37
 
I wonder who they blame for their country being turned into a war zone.
Looking at the pictures I have to wonder what the population of those war torn places looks like. The refugees look to be disproportionately young males.
Looking at the damage and crimes committed in Europe, including rapes and murders, I hope that our always smart, always doing the right thing for the American people, have enough sense to Not be bringing these people HERE.
Is there nowhere in the world that would be better?
What jobs a r e waiting on More People in America?
Just exactly how much unemployment do we need before the evil bubs, who want cheap labor, will stop demanding open borders? What good is cheap labor when you have no clients?Poverty stricken people don't BUY a helluvalot.
Maybe it's time to, not REthink, but for the first time, THINK,about the lack of immigration law enforcement.
You really believe that it's all been about republicans wanting cheap labor?
What does that say about dems?
They don't own businesses?
They pay more?

Where DID the idea that the open borders policies are because of republicans come from? Did YOU think it up, all by yourself?
Or maybe the media helped?

Am I alone in just being absolutely flabbergasted that EVERY Trade Deal DONE since we were children has just screwed us OVER? What Happened? Those crafty lawyers in the
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countries just outfoxed our best and brightest?
And the mistakes never get reversed, only compounded.
Just be sure to pay attention to the news media that you want to believe.
Remember what IKE said.
Look at what has happened since.
What would America look like had we failed to adequately heed that warning?
That's not hard to answer.
Look around.
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Reply #3 - 12/27/15 at 21:11:30
 
you're preaching to the choir boss ....
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Reply #4 - 12/27/15 at 21:15:26
 
It may be "safer" to restrict young, healthy, males,... but allowing the sick, elderly, women, and children,... without allowing the breadwinners... will guarantee welfare...

They send their young, strong, healthy men,.. to establish financial security for the family...  you would do the same... it's just common sense...
Look at history...
Was America settled by our mama's, little sister's, and elderly grampa's?...  
Anglo-American's sent their youngest, strongest, and most ambitious...

Many of these people, have never even left their home town
... this is a terrifying prospect to them...

Leaving everything you have ever known, is not easy...
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Reply #5 - 12/27/15 at 21:21:25
 
America doesn't need anyone else.  We have close to a 100 million people not working, let alone making a living wage.  10s of millions illegal immigrants taking more jobs, we can't feed the people we have.  Not to mention 20 trillion of debt.  

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Reply #6 - 12/27/15 at 21:50:19
 
Allow me to present this as a moral dilemma...
... or,.. a "what would Jesus do?"...

What is a "moral" decision?...
When is your morality questioned?...

It is when you are asked to make a decision based on right vs wrong, without consideration of how it will effect you and yours...
Any decision that is to your benefit... asks nothing from you.
When a decision asks that you set aside selfish reasoning, and do something that may not better your circumstance... may even worsen, or endanger your personal realm of security... that you are making a moral decision...
In spite of it's effect on me and mine,... this is the right thing to do...

Millions of people are running terror... and amongst those millions, there may be a few that mean you harm...
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Reply #7 - 12/27/15 at 22:12:10
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/27/15 at 21:50:19:
Allow me to present this as a moral dilemma...
... or,.. a "what would Jesus do?"...


Wow, an atheist utilizing "WWJD"?   Grin

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Reply #8 - 12/27/15 at 22:18:34
 
Not only did he Do that, he Nailed it.
Very succinct explanation.
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Reply #9 - 12/28/15 at 00:15:42
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/27/15 at 22:18:34:
Not only did he Do that, he Nailed it.
Very succinct explanation.


More drivel from the left.  That mind-set is only going to expedite the transformation from the world's most prosperous nation in history to a third world economy.  If it is good for the collective, it compromises the principle of individualism and the pursuit of happiness.

That is the fundamental difference I have with the left.  Their views directly affect the everyone, if it is not good for the collective it is intolerable to them.  

If you want to help them, feel free to donate your time, money, better yet go get on a plane and really help them.  

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Reply #10 - 12/28/15 at 06:09:27
 
Why don't we send them some guns and train them to fight for themselves.

(I have to add that I'm aware of the irony)


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Reply #11 - 12/28/15 at 06:48:36
 

They send their young, strong, healthy men,.. to establish financial security for the family...  you would do the same... it's just common sense...


You've got a big heart, but that will get innocent people blown into  small pieces or shot full of holes. If we let 100,000 "refugees" in, some of them will be our enemies. You have to see that don't you? Yes America is the best and brightest, we are that city on a hill, but there are too many already dedicated to inflicting damage on us. We need to step back and say no for a while.
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Reply #12 - 12/28/15 at 07:12:45
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/27/15 at 21:50:19:
Allow me to present this as a moral dilemma...
... or,.. a "what would Jesus do?"...

What is a "moral" decision?...
When is your morality questioned?...

It is when you are asked to make a decision based on right vs wrong, without consideration of how it will effect you and yours...
Any decision that is to your benefit... asks nothing from you.
When a decision asks that you set aside selfish reasoning, and do something that may not better your circumstance... may even worsen, or endanger your personal realm of security... that you are making a moral decision...
In spite of it's effect on me and mine,... this is the right thing to do...

Millions of people are running terror... and amongst those millions, there may be a few that mean you harm...


Well, ask yourself that question. What personal impact will mass immigration from suspect countries have on you, Sew?
What impact will it have on Obama, Hilary?
The answer to both questions is no impact.
The top politicians will always have armed guards and be protected.

You are just one in 300 million in this country so the odds are in your favor you won't be shot at a concert, blown apart watching a marathon, killed at a Christmas work party or shot down at a military base by an officer.
Someone will, but it won't be you or Hilary or Obama.

This WWJD moral delemma for you is nothing of the sort. There is no delemma, you risk nothing either. This is a political ideology exercise, that's all. And as such, you're required to take the liberal position which while perhaps heartwarming, is nonetheless, foolish and dangerous.

A great analogy is that liberals are like children and conservatives like adults. Adults desperately need children to keep them from driving in in a rut and not venturing out, but children desperately need adults to keep them from driving off a clifff.
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Reply #13 - 12/28/15 at 07:39:48
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/28/15 at 07:12:45:
You are just one in 300 million in this country so the odds are in your favor you won't be shot at a concert, blown apart watching a marathon, killed at a Christmas work party or shot down at a military base by an officer.


...and how is that different than anyone else?....

You just proved my point...
All this fear mongering is just to stir the base of the Right Wing...
Happens every election cycle...
Fear Mexicans,.. fear Muslims,.. Liberals will make us unsafe.
Be afraid.... Vote because you are afraid...
Fear is great motivator.

These people are being used as a political tool... meanwhile, the reality of their circumstance is ignored.
They are not human to us,.. they are an issue.
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Reply #14 - 12/28/15 at 08:01:35
 
What would Jesus do about unplanned pregnancies bot?

Yeah.....I expect no answer, or your normal dodge.

BTW, your explanation about the young men makes sense.
But I must wonder why can't the current coalition fight the cause of their exile, and let these people stay in their homeland?
Seems that would be the ideal solution for them and alleviate the strain on others having to accept them......

Why is this not happening?

Love this observation: You just proved my point...
All this fear mongering is just to stir the base of the Right Wing...


Sure thang punkin, like Global Warming, huh...... or repubs are going to make you drink dirty water and old folk eat dog food because of their tax cuts for the wealthy....

Pot, meet kettle  Grin
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