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Reply #15 - 12/06/15 at 20:19:09

I'm running Pirellis on mine and 30 psi seems waaay too low. It "feels" dangerous and squirrelly. I think I run somewhere around 35-40 psi for it to feel "confidence inspiring".

I've heard the Metzelers wear flat on top of the tread because they are so thick. This will give you a square profile instead of the standard motorcycle tire round profile. When you lean the tire over onto this edge, handling will get sloppy. Add that to the age of the tire and you have the makings of a disaster.

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Reply #16 - 12/06/15 at 20:28:09

Do you run the MT66 Route tires? How do you like them compared to the other brands? Do you like the 140/90 size? Do they have good grip in the gravel and dirt/mud (for a road tire)? I would assume they do fairly well from the relatively abundant center tread. Do you prefer these to the other brands or cheaper tires? I'd like to find something pretty cheap, so long as it suits my purpose.

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Reply #17 - 12/06/15 at 20:34:14

Kris01 wrote on 12/06/15 at 20:19:09:

I'm running Pirellis on mine and 30 psi seems waaay too low. It "feels" dangerous and squirrelly. I think I run somewhere around 35-40 psi for it to feel "confidence inspiring".

I've heard the Metzelers wear flat on top of the tread because they are so thick. This will give you a square profile instead of the standard motorcycle tire round profile. When you lean the tire over onto this edge, handling will get sloppy. Add that to the age of the tire and you have the makings of a disaster.

Yeah, I think I'm starting to notice the floppiness or "sloppiness" of the handling due to the wear. I also remember reading the opinion that they wear flat. Seems a rather ineffective way of making a long life tire, doesn't it? And too darned expensive. Tongue

Of course, some swear by them for traction and handling.

I sometimes feel like those 140/80 Metzlers were designed a bit flat from the time they're new, and the wear doesn't help. Of course, I got the tire used with the bike, so what do I know? Tongue

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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #18 - 12/06/15 at 20:45:03 Since I finally figured out how to get pictures off my parent's cheap smartphone, I'll see about getting a picture of that tire tomorrow.
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Reply #19 - 12/06/15 at 21:22:45

My rear tyre is probably 10 years old. Was on it when I bought the bike and the PO had never fitted a new tyre. I'm dragging pegs on that old thing, and it feels fine to me. Even when I had 15 psi in it because my back hurt on a long run, that thing was squirming all over but still stuck to the road just fine. I'm not saying you should ride on an old tyre, but I'm going to keep on until it's gone. YMMV etc.
Kris, i don't think I could stand to ride this bike with 40 psi in the back tyre. Too jarring for me.

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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #20 - 12/07/15 at 09:14:12 A picture
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #21 - 12/07/15 at 09:17:12 Another
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #22 - 12/07/15 at 09:19:05 And another
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #23 - 12/07/15 at 09:27:45 And another
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #24 - 12/07/15 at 09:33:05 And maybe one more. I probably need to figure out all this image sharing stuff at some point.
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #25 - 12/07/15 at 09:39:59 That wide tread'll fool ya! Just barely comes over Lincoln's hairline with the dirt scratched away. Not much life left in that tire. Is that tire flat enough for ya! Do you think the thing was designed a little flat in the beginning? Might be alot flatter now, but it doesn't look like it was ever a very round, steep tire.
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #26 - 12/07/15 at 09:46:51 You can see from the third picture that the tread is worn unevenly. Certain thick parts of the tread stick out like wings. Is this what is called cupping, or is that something slightly different?
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #27 - 12/07/15 at 10:11:47 Talking about squared off, mine ain't nothin' to this http://www.ebay.com/itm/13-Honda-Rebel-250-OEM-Rear-Wheel-Rim-Tire-130-90-15-...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #28 - 12/07/15 at 10:45:58 Unless you're riding in the rain, tires aren't properly worn out till threads are showing.
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gizzo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiCabbage. It's Savage. Posts: 1318 Australia	Re: Evil Rear Tire Reply #29 - 12/07/15 at 13:22:03 verslagen1 wrote on 12/07/15 at 10:45:58: Unless you're riding in the rain, tires aren't properly worn out till threads are showing. Amen to that.
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