raydawg wrote on 12/05/15 at 12:42:55:Stike one!
I am American Indian.....
However, you are pretty close in other assumptions.
My great grandfather on my mothers side was in fact a German emigrant who went west to trap.
He stole my great grandmother off the reservation and married her.
I even have pictures of this, which are way cool.
Yes, my history lesson is public school and what they deemed appropriate, I reckon.
OK, which means to my understanding you would resent in anyone describing ALL American settlers as GOOD and ALL American Indians as BAD, to say the least.
Quote:You dude seem to hold your views and knowledge as surperior and factual, even prolly to the point you think your beliefs are unique and novel, withhout prejudice and bias, all us other heathens have been tainted with....
Er, actually, NO. The Crusades are the history of Europe, plain and simple.
Wherever you go today in Italy and France you will find not ruins but living villages which are named after Crusader history,
because the Knights Templars or the Knights of Malta had a garrison there which provided shelter to pilgrims and haven from robbers hiding in the woods.
The Crusades are the story of Europe meaning the story of my People.
Quite simply, we don't study the Middle Ages as "the Dark Ages of woe and famine"
much less as a fairy tale with castles and knights and dragons and ladies in distress...
My own history book of the Middle Ages in High School was a good 300+ pages, from the last sacking of Rome in 476 to the discovery of America in 1492.
Quote:Your glib reference to Truman et al, is nothing but your own crock, and is a simple extension of your ego and folly, for history can not be undone or proven, key word here amigo..... Proven, by its vey nature.
I studied that portion of US history way back then, my history teacher was E.Richard Michaelson (jewish) and he had us write a term paper on "the Bomb", asking us to dissert whether the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a good idea or not.
The point is, even if you go and read University-level history books, they will all agree in saying that "the Bomb" did seem a good idea to Pres. Truman (else, he wouldn't have approved it).
Or... are you telling me that the Generals in the Pentagon had pressed Pres. Truman into a corner and pressured him into signing a document he disapproved?
Don't you understand I am actually defending him ? 
Quote:You want to stroke yourself with Monday morning quarterbacking, be my guess, for we could all have a hoot talking Italy's history and their self imposed importance.....
A Nation's importance is always related to a specific time in history.
From the fall of the Roman Empire in Rome, the ONE power in Europe was Greece, home to the Roman Empire of the East.
Then came France under the Capets etc. up to the 16th Century.
Then came Spain with its conquests of Central and South America.
England and the UK became big and powerful thanks to the "Seven Years' War" (French&Indian to you) and maintained their status up to WW1.
Americans tend to dismiss the Moorish, Persian and Turkish Empires... but see how wide they spanned... and I'm only talking about the Mediterranean Basin.
Are the US a World Power ? Yes, they became THE World Power in 1945 because of all victor states they were the only one never to be physically damaged by the war
(not including the bombing of Pearl Harbor... but nobody ever bombed Detroit, New Yor City or Bostoin, did they?)
The US remained THE world Power after they beat the USSR in a financial war to high technology, but started losing out when the Treasury decided to unlink the US Dollar from the value of gold...
That's when the price of oil skyrocketed and "emerging nations" (India, Brazil, South Africa) started growing.
Who will be "#1 Nation" in 2050 ? I don't know... maybe China, maybe India, maybe Brazil...
...maybe the Congo might be in 2100...
As for Italy...
Up until 1861 Italy was really just a geographical expression...
...but way back in those same Middle Ages which you claim to know so well,
Tuscany was the center of commerce, banking and, oh, THE ARTS !
Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo Buonarroti, Raffaello, Giotto, Cimabue, Bernini, Donatello but also Dante, Machiavelli, Petrarca...
If they weren't born there they did their apprenticeship there...
What is Tuscany today ? A Region (=State to you) within the Republic of Italy.
What is Italy ? A Member State within the European Union.
What is the European Union? A project, work in progress, among nations with 1000+ years of national identity, which means it is very difficult to convince many to relinquish their national sovereignty "for the common good".
But way back in 1781... read hisotry books... the one most commonly used currency used in the newbord United States of America was the Spanish Dobloon... because you had just thrown out the English Pound...
...and people spoke Dutch and German in Pennsylvania.
I'm not making this up, this is what I learned in school.
Ellen Glasgow Junior High.
Have a happy weekend.
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