Maybe instead of blaming guns for killing innocent people, we should turn them on those who have no qualms on using them to cause mayhem.
Why can't we arm those who already know of proper gun use, luscence them and regulate them as another tool to fight terrorism?
Proper vetting and training will be paramount, with strict adherence to the use of deadly force....
I think it's fair to say these perps act out only because they believe they have an unsuspecting targets, let's give them one more element to consider, even that knowledge of another gun pointed at them will slow their death spray down as they will be looking for those armed citizens with a barrel pointed at them maybe...,,

In CA, there's a gun safety class we have to take just to purchase a gun.
And a CCW class to get that permit.
Effectively, you can no longer open carry.

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They say 8% of CA own a gun, about 16,000.
If you taught a class of 30 for 8 hours, it'd take 533 classes to certify every owner... let's say once a year.  52 weeks a year, 10 or so training centers.  I think that's very doable.  Now, let's flip the coin, this would go a long way to weeding out those that shouldn't own a weapon.

I have a Boyscout Rifleman handbook. My grandfather taught a civilian defense "class" for lack of a better term. He had a rifle that was technically property of the state, issued to train people. It's a bolt .22 dated 1947.
The people from days gone by, are (not exclusively) those who stand back in awe when tragedies strike.

Perhaps it would be wise to revisit these concepts. I'm not saying issue everyone a M1911A1 and a beret to patrol the streets but Versy's idea carries merit.


--Steve

I got a permit to carry here in Florida the Gunshine state. It only took 4 hours classroom training with the instructor pretty much giving the answers to the written test as we took it. The live fire test was silly, point the pistol at the target with your finger off the trigger then shoot one round then take the finger back off the trigger. They didn't even care if you hit the target or not.
Don't know if I want people with that level of gun training walking around with guns but we do it here in Florida.
Can't get rid of all the guns in the US, there are too many unregistered guns and gun nuts.
 Most of the NRA supporters are for a milita, even that wouldn't work because of the extra stress on law enforcement.
 Can't see an easy way to stop these mass shootings, guns, ammo and nut jobs are way too easy to come buy now adays.

How long till the exec orders are given from Penn Ave?  

Don't know, I'm expecting a lot of talk but not a lot of action. Obama isn't going to upset the apple cart, bet he's going to kick it down the road for the next pres.

Paraquat wrote on 12/03/15 at 11:05:33:


This is an interesting idea.....   What if we set a goal that say 10% of the population went through training, regular background checks etc... to basically be 'deputies'.

some numbers will go up, some down.
instead of 14 and 17 it could of been 2.

on another website I frequent, one of the guys has a scorecard in his siggy.
gun deaths vs everything else.  usually there's less gun death.

and as far as suicide goes, it'll happen, doesn't matter if it was by gun.

raydawg wrote on 12/03/15 at 11:01:09: