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Reply #30 - 12/02/15 at 09:42:21
 
I'm not a degreed engineer but I've dealt in one particular field for so long now, there isn't much I don't know about airflow and particulate capture. However, I'm always shocked to find how little actual engineers know and to make matters worse, how stubborn they are to accept what I know after years of actual field work. There are an awful lot of engineers who are to clever by half as the saying goes.

I don't go to my Doctor for carb jetting, but I don't blindly follow what he says either. Give yourself more credit.

My big question is simply that 15,000 years ago, much of North America was covered by ice. Now, whenever a discussion about evolution vs intelligent design comes up, I'm told I don't understand how a million years is just a tick of the evolutionary clock. Well, I assume the same applies for geology as well. 15,000 years ago we were covered in ice and today we're not so is it any surprise we're warmer today?
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Reply #31 - 12/02/15 at 09:46:24
 
verslagen1 wrote on 12/02/15 at 09:32:39:
personal experience... Let's talk CA drought.
CA never gets a lot of water (except after major burns)
but 2011 to 2014 is the driest on record since 1895.
2015 is another year w/out much.
The advert said it's due to a pressure trough keeping the jet stream from going down CA.  And it's more or less stationary where it used to cycle.
This is why whenever they talk el nino rains they say it won't end the drought.  I got a feeling they ain't coming at all.  If so, we're down to our last year of water.


"since 1895". Geologically speaking, that's a very short timeframe.
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Reply #32 - 12/02/15 at 10:08:57
 
verslagen1 wrote on 12/02/15 at 09:32:39:
personal experience... Let's talk CA drought.
CA never gets a lot of water (except after major burns)
but 2011 to 2014 is the driest on record since 1895.
2015 is another year w/out much.
The advert said it's due to a pressure trough keeping the jet stream from going down CA.  And it's more or less stationary where it used to cycle.
This is why whenever they talk el nino rains they say it won't end the drought.  I got a feeling they ain't coming at all.  If so, we're down to our last year of water.



not to worry I'll flush twice from now on Cheesy
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Reply #33 - 12/02/15 at 10:17:55
 
Was it California a few years ago in the middle of another drought of the century who came up with the marketing slogan : Have fun in the sun, but don't flush after number 1"
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Reply #34 - 12/02/15 at 12:13:18
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/02/15 at 09:46:24:
"since 1895". Geologically speaking, that's a very short timeframe.


ya ya... we'll all matter like a mouse fart in the wind.
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Reply #35 - 12/02/15 at 13:02:16
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/02/15 at 10:17:55:
Was it California a few years ago in the middle of another drought of the century who came up with the marketing slogan : Have fun in the sun, but don't flush after number 1"


Yep.... The early 70s to be exact.....It's been more than long enough for all the lessons to be forgotten.... Undecided     Society has a memory span that doesn't exceed a single Nano second.... Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - 12/02/15 at 14:17:11
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/02/15 at 09:42:21:
I'm not a degreed engineer but I've dealt in one particular field for so long now, there isn't much I don't know about airflow and particulate capture. However, I'm always shocked to find how little actual engineers know and to make matters worse, how stubborn they are to accept what I know after years of actual field work. There are an awful lot of engineers who are to clever by half as the saying goes.

I don't go to my Doctor for carb jetting, but I don't blindly follow what he says either. Give yourself more credit.

My big question is simply that 15,000 years ago, much of North America was covered by ice. Now, whenever a discussion about evolution vs intelligent design comes up, I'm told I don't understand how a million years is just a tick of the evolutionary clock. Well, I assume the same applies for geology as well. 15,000 years ago we were covered in ice and today we're not so is it any surprise we're warmer today?




15,000 years ago we were covered in ice and today we're not so is it any surprise we're warmer today? [/quote]


Quoted in hopes that it will sink in.
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Reply #37 - 12/02/15 at 17:28:53
 
Next,  ‘Ice Age’, due in about another 15,000 years.
So where I sit now, will have about 900 feet of ICE, over my head.

But it’s gonna get a little warmer, before it gets colder again.

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Reply #38 - 12/02/15 at 17:53:22
 
Quote:
“ … Let’s talk CA drought. … "


Last year in Jan, I was in,  Hemuet, Calf.
The event I attended was about 30 min drive, in the Country,
N/W, of town.   (In the ‘country’).
(About 50-60 miles East of  L.A.)

On the way their, over the gravel roads,
Their were places where, (With a 2 WD Rent-a-Car)
one had to, ‘GO FAST’,
Or be mired in the, mud, on the roads,
from the Leaking,  ’AIR’,  Sprinklers,  for the corps growing.

If Calf, Had a,  ‘Water Use ban”,  it sure was not apparent then.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #39 - 12/02/15 at 18:03:55
 
You mean Hemet?
Most water out there is from wells.
They pump it, spray it, and it goes back to where they got it.
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Reply #40 - 12/02/15 at 18:24:35
 
“ … You mean Hemet? …”

Yep  

Not knowing the situation.
Hearing all the, ’talk’.  then,  experiencing the Muddy Roads.
From  Leaking well heads, and over saturation

Came to a different conclusion.

Did not know that the Aquifers, were on a, ’low table’,
so the water would seep down again,
and be reused.

From the people their, from many areas, way outside Calf,
It was the talk of the event.

BECAUSE, it is what they heard/believed,  (From the  Media).
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Reply #41 - 12/02/15 at 18:55:24
 
I know the area, lived there for a year, grandparents lived across the valley for many years.
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Reply #42 - 12/03/15 at 08:03:38
 
“ I know the area, lived there "

Yep !  That, is why, one listens to the people, that, ‘been their done that’.
 Rather than the Media, looking for a sensational story to be able to sell more ads.

Listening to the Media, ALL of Calf is stricken, not parts of.

I suppose, kina, like a ‘subject’ of another country,
telling someone who teaches, firearm Safety,
(in a Country they cannot Vote in), that, they are ‘teaching to kill’.
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Reply #43 - 12/03/15 at 09:46:34
 
verslagen1 wrote on 12/02/15 at 18:55:24:
I know the area, lived there


Verslagen1:  

How bad is the water supply there?  On occasion I will read something about it and I'm not sure how credible it is.  Can you give an update what the residential & commercial restrictions are and where they are more than likely to go if the drought continues?

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Reply #44 - 12/03/15 at 11:46:56
 
to me the only restriction is financial.  and my town gets it's water by well.
in tehatchapi they're out of water and have to truck it in.
Hemet is bounded by 4 lakes and still has a lot of ground water.
so it varies by locale.
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