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Reply #15 - 11/19/15 at 16:26:29
 
KKK is Daesh then?

Anybody who wants to step over me is Daesh, then?

Are rioters who kill and loot Daesh, then?

Global warmers Daesh, then?

Capitalist, Daesh, then?

Anti-capitalist, Daesh?

Communist ?

Socialist?

A word has this power?

Golly, I guess I can toss out "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.......  Undecided  
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Reply #16 - 11/19/15 at 16:42:54
 
old.indian wrote on 11/19/15 at 16:13:55:
'bot has a point.   I have personal issues with "Kerry" that influence my perception of any of his statements or actions.
Calling a gang of murdering bullies by what they are removes any pretenses of  legitimacy from them. "Daesh" it is as far as I'm concerned......  


They are not a gang of murdering bullies......  

If a group of "murdering bullies" sprayed gun fire during a gay rights meeting screaming "all praise and honor to Jesus Christ" you think bot would say "this is not religious bassed. Just some fringe criminal groups struggling for power....."

$hit, I'd hear his little fingers pounding out anti-Christian diatribes from a thousand miles away...

Come on people, wake the f up!
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Reply #17 - 11/19/15 at 16:47:29
 
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Reply #18 - 11/19/15 at 16:52:49
 
LostArtist wrote on 11/19/15 at 16:47:29:
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Reply #19 - 11/19/15 at 16:53:35
 
OK then, calling a group, or person, a, ’name’, they don’t like.
Will STOP, that person, from doing what they do ?

So, if you are on the playground, and a, ‘bully’, is telling you to do something, and you say,  ‘Your A Bully”, they will stop what they are doing ?

Or, if you are about to be, raped, and you say:  ‘Your a Rapist”, they will just leave you alone ?

Or if you are about to be shot by a mugger, you say:  “Your are a Murderer”, they will walk away ?

If a person want’s to say, ‘Daesh’, when describing, ‘COWARDLY   MURDERING  TERRORISTS’.

Go ahead.  I just think, that will NOT, change anything.

My Opinion is, showing the, ‘COWARDLY   MURDERING  TERRORISTS.
When they commit a, ‘COWARDLY   MURDERING  TERRORISTS ACT.
Their will be, repercussions, for their,  ‘COWARDLY   MURDERING  TERRORISTS ACT.
and they will be, responsible, for their, ‘COWARDLY   MURDERING  TERRORISTS ACTS.

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Reply #20 - 11/19/15 at 17:01:19
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:39:06:
American Conservatives have their own facts... they ignore the facts the rest of the world see..."

Well here is a perspective, from another person.
Who is in another Country !

http://www.patcondell.net/goodbye-to-the-first-amendment/
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Reply #21 - 11/19/15 at 17:07:26
 
Pat Condell is an immigrant, himself!  Grin
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Reply #22 - 11/19/15 at 18:22:27
 
...and I'm the loon?... Undecided...

The gentlemen are now arguing pure, ridiculous, nonsense...

Thank you, Ol' indian for acknowledging my point...
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Reply #23 - 11/19/15 at 18:33:59
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/19/15 at 18:22:27:
...and I'm the loon?... Undecided...

The gentlemen are now arguing pure, ridiculous, nonsense...

Thank you, Ol' indian for acknowledging my point...



Thank you...for, oh, affirming you so you feel more superior and wiser and others are just fools, gotcha....

Such balderdash, it really is hilarious, whats next, a bridge for sale in yew york?

Have you word party and atta boys, geez  

edit: Ok, then will this word make them even more determined to succeed and kill more people in their RAGE?

As to the press, welcome to the club that has known for quite a spell that they only steer and direct and even FABRICATE news to garner ratings and $$$$$$$, truth be darn or non-existent.....

I am still scratching my head on how a person can rationalize this reasoning.
 
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Reply #24 - 11/19/15 at 19:02:47
 
A murdering bully is a murdering bully. No matter it's religion, race, nationality or political affiliation.    Calling them for what they are won't stop them, or even slow them down. BUT it does identify them for what they are, and erases any trace of legitimacy or "heroic glamor" they might attempt to foist off on the ignorant. Angry
FYI: "Daesh" is an (Arabic ?) word used to describe a SPECIFIC group of murdering bullies who were using the term I.S.I.S. (the letters representing the English translation....) for the political/religious ideology they claim to represent...
 
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Reply #25 - 11/19/15 at 22:09:29
 
+1... ol'Indian...

Daesh,.. is the word that the Right-wing has been looking for...

Unfortunately,.. Kerry found it...

Daesh, is the word, that gives disrespect to the enemy, without promoting their cause...

Believe it or ?...liberals hate terrorists...
I am happy to call them names... degrade them,... celebrate when they are decimated...

I just won't assist them, in broadening their influence... by calling them the name that they choose...
They are happy to have "Islam" as a part of their name...

Can't you see how that legitimizes them?...
How it can aid in their recruitment?...
Painting themselves as crusaders for Islam,... rather than the scumbag killers that they are?...

Example from Web's post...
If, the KKK, started calling themselves the True followers of Christ...?...
Would you start calling them the name they want?...
Would you assist them in associating themselves with Christianity?...
Would you want news reports to say that The True Followers of Christ just dragged a man to death behind a pick-up truck?...
The KKK did that... nothing to do with Christ...

Just stop being partisan for second, and think...
...or just stop in being the opposite to anything that i say... and think... 
I really don't know which motivation directs this nonsense...

There is supposed to be more to intellectual discussion, than...
I know you are, but what am I?...
Think!...

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Reply #26 - 11/20/15 at 04:20:48
 
My bad bot, I held your opine in a higher plane, but I now believe I was amiss.
Your last reply in assuming all conservatives, or right-wing, is how the left likes to label them, shows how your own thinking and prejudice has trapped you.

How did Kerry find this word if the Muslim have already been using it?

I know nothing of its origination, but the Christians you lump together have a word that is biblical in context and often used to justify someones actions.
The word is zealot.
We are instructed to be zealous in our quest to be holy.
However, you have folk who use this as a direct command and affirmation to go against some one else.
That is not its intentions.
As a believer I can call this person a zealot, and in context, it is not a flattering word, but it is accurate.
Perhaps this word Kerry found is similar, but only has weight when used by another sharing the same faith, as an example I could say Al Gore is so zealous in his quest to promote the Global Warming Scare that his zealousness has removed any intellectual honesty from his reasoning. I am sure you would see this as a good thing, or maybe even expand it to say he is really committed on his belief then, and gives greater witness to his testimony, lending it even more credence.  
And BTW, not all conservatives love war, as I am sure you must think....

Bot, your world is only as big, or, as small, as your thought footprint...

I could go on and cite a bunch of examples on how the left plays with opportunity of misfortune of others, to promote their own beliefs and agenda, but it would be fruitless and a waste of time, so I won't....

Rome is burning and we fight over how hot the flame is, so very sad....

A real paranoia is growing, that is fact, it was manifest when 911 happened and has taken root.
On a much smaller scale we saw this mindset exampled against American Japanese with interment camps in WW2.
We saw McCarthyism, and we are seeing a press and political operatives capitalize and feed off this present  fear.  
Social media and instant news, 24/7, has only given the wino a river of wine in which to indulge his weakness, as he falls away from reality and into a deeper abyss of no return, lost......

BTW, I don't expect an honest reply, nor am I going to participate any further into this topic.

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Reply #27 - 11/20/15 at 06:15:39
 
Daesh,.. is the word that the Right-wing has been looking for...

Unfortunately,.. Kerry found it...


Nonsense. The right wing is not afraid of calling them what they are, Islamic terrorist, Islamic fascist, Islamic (fill in the blank with your favorite adjective here)

Daesh, is the word, that gives disrespect to the enemy, without promoting their cause...

Daesh is a word I'm sure the Islamic fascist leaders love to hear because they know it's a continuing signal the West is still pu$$yfied and unwilling to admit who their enemy is.

Can't you see how that legitimizes them?...
How it can aid in their recruitment?...
Painting themselves as crusaders for Islam,... rather than the scumbag killers that they are?...


They are crusaders for Islam.

Example from Web's post...
If, the KKK, started calling themselves the True followers of Christ...?...
Would you start calling them the name they want?...
Would you assist them in associating themselves with Christianity?...
Would you want news reports to say that The True Followers of Christ just dragged a man to death behind a pick-up truck?...
The KKK did that... nothing to do with Christ...


Bot; you already think the KKK is a Christian organization. I'm willing to bet if I searched long enough on this site, I could find you saying that.

But my point still stands, if a group calling themselves Christian State in North America, (CSNA) shot up a gay rights meeting shouting All Hail Jesus Christ, you would be beside yourself. Don't even pretend otherwise. If attacks had gone on for decades with Christians taking over countries, throwing gays off buildings, beheading people, do you honestly think you would be saying 'hey wait a second guys, lets stop calling these bullies CSNA because that unfairly accuses honest, loving Christians. Let's call the KKK from now on because that will shame them."

You know, the people who throw gays off buildings are going to be shamed by a name.....  Really? Does that even sound logical?


Just stop being partisan for second, and think...
...or just stop in being the opposite to anything that i say... and think...
I really don't know which motivation directs this nonsense...


Ditto. The only reason you are on the side you are on in this case is because conservatives are on the other side. So I will say to you, stop being partisan for a second and think....They identify themselves as Islamic. The % of Muslims who have sympathetic beliefs towards them are huge. Even within our own country, the number is significant. At a soccer game in Turkey, a moment of silence was interrupted by some fans yelling Allahu Akbar.

Saying these terrorist events are not connected to Islam is lunacy. It's all about Islam.

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Reply #28 - 11/20/15 at 08:23:39
 
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Reply #29 - 11/20/15 at 09:29:24
 
Quote WM:
"The % of Muslims who have sympathetic beliefs towards them are huge."
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And what number would you put that % as?
Where are the sources for this?
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