Yep, as long as the Media provides an interpretation of events, and is linked with certain owners/businesses/political-parties, then we have no decent, reliable news. Same the world over  

MnSpring wrote on 11/23/15 at 17:42:22:

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Godwin's Law

Jog wrote:

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The "Ministry of Truth" isn't fully operational yet. But they're working on it.

Orwell would sh*t his pants if he knew his book, which he intended as a warning, was being used as an instruction manual.

Wait until they get around to the "Ministry of Cyber Truth" and start rewriting the internet. Probably developing the algorithms right now so that AI computers can do the editing, instead of guys like poor old Winston. Then we will be truly f**ked.

So..... want to make sure I got this right before I respond further....

We should accept any/all refugees who desire to flee their trappings based on the fact we, the good ol' USA, is a Christian Nation?

Is that what I read?

Bot wrote: The biggest Christian nation in the world is not even willing to lend a token of help in a global crisis...

raydawg wrote on 11/24/15 at 03:36:54:

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No, that's what you interpreted.

Not all/any refugees. Not based on the USA being Christian.

The USA is a huge land mass.
The USA is in the top 10 richest nations.
The USA follows a religion which teaches "do unto others...etc".
The USA played a large part in the terror that the Syrian refugees are fleeing.
The USA was founded by immigrants/refugees.

These are the reasons that people question the 'Christian attitude' of the USA when it comes to accepting people in need into the country.

HovisPresley wrote on 11/24/15 at 09:23:57:


Who said they are not willing and wanting to help these people, you?
Why can't we help according to what we think would be best?
Me thinks you have ingested too much ink from the wrong paper while eating your fish and chips....

Dave wrote on 11/24/15 at 10:25:16:


I have seen people be wrong in this forum but you take the cake, my friend.

"You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword," says the LORD.  And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist.
Zephaniah 2:12

   Stand in silence in the presence of the Sovereign LORD, for the awesome day of the LORD's judgment has come.  The LORD has prepared his people for a great slaughter and has chosen their executioners.  "On that day of judgment," says the LORD, "I will punish the leaders and princes of Judah and all those following pagan customs.  Yes, I will punish those who participate in pagan worship ceremonies, and those who steal and kill to fill their masters' homes with loot.
Zephaniah 1:7

Freedom to be Pagan?

Is any among you sick?  Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, it shall be forgiven him.  
James 5:14

No need for a doctor or science, just rely on prayer.

The descendants of Joseph attacked the town of Bethel, and the LORD was with them.  They sent spies to Bethel (formerly known as Luz), who confronted a man coming out of the city.  They said to him, "Show us a way into the city, and we will have mercy on you."  So he showed them a way in, and they killed everyone in the city except for this man and his family.  Later the man moved to the land of the Hittites, where he built a city.

Judges 1:21

Nothing like eradicating an entire city.

Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure.  They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground.  

Judges 18

Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge!  Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD.  "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".  

Jeremiah 50

Cain and Abel? How did that one end again? Oh, they both lived in peace together?

Emperor Leo III who killed anyone who worshiped an icon instead of the deity itself? Where's that freedom?

The Spanish Inquisition was a mission of peace?


--Steve

Paraquat:

The majority of your quotes are from the Old Testament.  The Old Testament shows the wrath of God against sin; the New Testament shows the grace of God toward sinners.

I never said that Christians are never involved in battles or wars - or that a Christian Country and it leaders and politicians have never gone to war.  The Spanish Inquisition had very little to do with Christianity, and more to do with greed and power of people in high places.

As a Christian, I choose to live in peace....and that is how Jesus taught us to live our lives.  I do everything I can to avoid a fight - but I will also never intend to become a victim.

Ya'll enjoy yourself here......I just don't have the patience it takes to come here and verbally attack each other.

Dave