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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Refuges ? Reply #30 - 11/19/15 at 06:16:25 I was arguing with a local who asked why I was getting so bent that Governor Malloy (D., CT) is letting in 1600+ refugees. I said "Who's going to burden the costs?" He replied "You won't have to pay anything, it's federally funded" --Steve
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Reply #31 - 11/19/15 at 07:55:01

WebsterMark wrote on 11/19/15 at 04:27:35:

Sew: You can't let fear guide your morality...

Isn't that you when it comes to gun control?

The refugees are fleeing for their lives and have nowhere to go... This, is a moral dilemma......
The 300 million guns are pieces of metal we like to play with... Huh

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...and I'm not saying get rid of all guns,.. just let's be more sensible about regulating our gun culture...

You would do better with an abortion arguement, which is a moral issue...
... but, the argument there, is is the definition of life...
Once again, these refugees are indisputably life...not potential lives...
...and, I'm not guided by fear...

I specifically said "guide your morality"... we let fear guide us all the time...
I won't skydive, or try a 360 flip on my bike... but, I try not to let fear guide my morality...
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Reply #32 - 11/19/15 at 10:44:37

Moral dilemmas have a resolution.

It is not a moral solution for the safety of our children to bring and potentially dangerous terrorist and murderers. we have no way to vet the refugees to see who is a killer and who is not because the simple fact is, there are killers among them. Don't even pretend that the US government can accomplish this, that's a joke.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #33 - 11/19/15 at 10:49:10 WebsterMark wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:44:37: Moral dilemmas have a resolution. Is that a rule?... ...
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Reply #34 - 11/19/15 at 11:17:41

WebsterMark wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:44:37:

we have no way to vet the refugees to see who is a killer and who is not because the simple fact is, there are killers among them. Don't even pretend that the US government can accomplish this, that's a joke.

My governor thinks we have a screening process... he says

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"We should be safe," Malloy said.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Connecticut-to-Accept-More-Than-1600...

Of course, this moron was voted worst governor in America and thinks that you don't need a background check to buy a firearm.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389857/americas-worst-governor-matt-purple

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If a Syrian can't get on a plane to fly...to the United States without a background check, why do we sell guns to people without a background check, if we're so fearful of what's going to happen?"

http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-malloy-we-are-well-protected...

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #35 - 11/19/15 at 12:30:45 WebsterMark wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:44:37: Moral dilemmas have a resolution. ........................................ 640 x 480 for the older dilemmas
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9055 Minn Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #36 - 11/19/15 at 15:30:16 *Pat Condell,* A British Comedian. Just discovered him today. http://www.patcondell.net/ I guess, not all people in the UK are, ‘Progressive’ ! A favorite is: Goodbye to the First Amendment http://www.patcondell.net/goodbye-to-the-first-amendment/ But their are a whole lot more. Perhaps you will enjoy.
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #37 - 11/19/15 at 17:03:00 A had to adjust my own 'resolution' after that.... even the monitor started to lean right....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Refuges ? Reply #38 - 11/20/15 at 20:02:54 Laugh, ridicule, doesn't mean he isn't right . Look at what just happened on campus. Safe spots, healing zones. The young adults of today are scary. It's Hate speech I'm damaged Watch...
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #39 - 11/20/15 at 20:47:57 HovisPresley wrote on 11/19/15 at 12:30:45: 640 x 480 for the older dilemmas I'm much broader minded than that... 800 x 600, maybe... ...
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Reply #40 - 11/21/15 at 06:06:37

Serowbot wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:49:10:

WebsterMark wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:44:37:

Moral dilemmas have a resolution.

Is that a rule?... Huh

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Kinda, is the end results of your "moral" decision sustainable without impinging on the rights of others?

I not sure how we even vet these refugees, which seems to be the question that needs to be addressed before we can even debate its merit.

But sadly, as we see Obama rush to a mass killing by a deranged person, or the right using the terrorist as fuel to muster fear on this issue, any sustainable solutions are not the motivation I am afraid, just more kool-aid for useful fools, is all Angry

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Reply #41 - 11/21/15 at 06:30:58

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I not sure how we even vet these refugees,

We can't. Even the agencies charged with doing the vetting have acknowledged that. Anyone coming from the middle east, especially Syria right now, is suspect. There isn't any "moral dilemma" here. I don't know why Obama and Hillary and their ilk are so all fired adamant about bringing them here, but rest assured, "morality" has nothing to do with it.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #42 - 11/21/15 at 07:16:01 Greece is dealing with 4,000 refugees per day... Western, civilized countries are courageously, and generously, doing all they can. Except for us... We're afraid....
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #43 - 11/21/15 at 07:16:42 Why can't we sub contract it out, ya know, like to Amazon. I jest, sorta, but isn't it odd private companies can almost vet instantly any commerce transaction the world over, and yet, it takes our gubbermint so much time and energy to do the most simplest task.... Just ask a VET who is trying to claim his rights
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Refuges ? Reply #44 - 11/21/15 at 07:36:49 Amazon can box up the refugees and have them delivered to your door within 2 days... ...
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