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Reply #15 - 11/17/15 at 17:51:50
 
Why allow any able bodied 18-35 year old refuges into any country? let alone "millions displaced" - stay in your countries and fix it - some women  children families and such "running" for sure but doesn't look to be the majority. of course given how terrible the US is according to the mizzu students and notable politicians why would any want to come to US at all?
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Reply #16 - 11/17/15 at 18:00:26
 
Thanks for the link Smiley

The info as to whether BAE is exporting more arms or not is dated 2002.
The link with their references is dead.
The corporate-watch site doesn't seem to list Lockheed  Huh

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How are we to know if or how many refugees are actually terrorists?
I think it's rhetorical   Huh
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Reply #17 - 11/17/15 at 20:37:54
 
For a nations of emigrants/refuges the US is certainly becoming xenophobic.    Embarrassed
Make sure you check under your beds tonight for the nasty old terrorists...
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Reply #18 - 11/17/15 at 20:47:25
 
old.indian wrote on 11/17/15 at 20:37:54:
For a nations of emigrants/refuges the US is certainly becoming xenophobic.    Embarrassed
Make sure you check under your beds tonight for the nasty old terrorists...
Grin Grin Grin Grin    


And that's coming from someone with fighting foreign terrorism since 1492 in his profile.   Grin

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Reply #19 - 11/17/15 at 22:37:50
 
He's a very, old Indian... Cool...



I'm sure many families send their youngest, strongest, boy to escape and settle in a new land, in the hopes that he will find work and shelter and then send for the family...
Not every family can afford passage for everyone... and not every person is physically capable...
Many settlers did this... and the immigrants that followed...

Think about it...   Huh....
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Reply #20 - 11/18/15 at 09:23:25
 
Look, our first obligation is to our families. Everything else falls in line behind. The question is not IF a few bad seeds will end up getting into the US if we let in 100,000 refugees, the question is HOW MANY will get in and can we trust the mechanisms currently in place to stop any attacks these guys might try.

Seeing that the parents of the Boston bomber fits the profile of potential refugees and we had no warning that attack was going to happen,  seems like the answer to that question is no.

War is hell. Innocents suffer. They already used the immigration crisis to slip across the border and attack so why would we presume they won't do the same here or are already planning attack now?
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Reply #21 - 11/18/15 at 09:44:58
 
Odds are vastly greater that you or a family member will be killed in a car accident, convenience store robbery, or probably even hit by lightening or slip in the tub...

You can't let fear guide your morality...
Isn't America supposed to have a reputation for courage?...
Are we more cowardly than the French, Germans, or English?...

These people need help...
Frankly, it is embarrassing that we are even having this discussion...
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Reply #22 - 11/18/15 at 10:38:47
 
[/quote]These people need help... [/quote]


Couple of days ago I came across a list of the 180 US cities where these folks are likely to be resettled. Tucson is on the list. So you're gonna get your chance to help 'em out.

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Odds are vastly greater that you or a family member will be killed in a car accident, convenience store robbery, or probably even hit by lightening or slip in the tub...


Except for the robbery, those things are accidents. And you could even argue that your being in the convenience store at the exact time the robbery is going down is an accident too. Letting potential terrorists into the country when we don't have to is not. It's just stupid.

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Reply #23 - 11/18/15 at 18:57:47
 
I'm gonna get an ethics and morality speech from a pro abortion, homosexuality promoting atheist?
Let's lean on logic.
The country is broke. We're involved in military action in places
General Wesley Clark SAID , he had a LIST , remember?


NOW THINK PEOPLE,
That LIST existed before the Problems WE are supposedly solving did.

Search
wesley clark 7 countries

Now, it's been more than five years, but the names are still the same.

http://genius.com/2158779


Bring women and children, but let military age men work at Home, to save the country. How many of those people will become American first, and not demand that we change our society, in order to Not offend?
Already, and how conveniently , we've seen American swept aside, for anything. No
America, not shirt, Ohh no, you can't wear THAT on Cinco de Mayo.
And what societal changes MUST be made to
Not offend
those who SHOULD be thankful for a bed and a sammich.
In Germany, dress codes have been changed.

Not seeing this for the threat to society it is is just silly.
It wouldn't be so pathetically idiotic if we didn't have such obvious indications that SOME of them are dangerous. Paris, anyone?
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Reply #24 - 11/18/15 at 19:15:47
 
About 12-15 years ago, a Great number of, Somalians were, 'Evacuated', to Minn.

In fact, (it IS a FACT), the Second highest population of Somalians, in the WORLD, are living in St. Paul Minn.   The Highest number are in the Country of Somalia.

On the local news, Now, it is reported, (SEVERAL TIMES by SEVERAL Stations), of ALL  the  Somali, people in the USA, Leaving to fight for the, 'COWARDLY  TERRORISTS",
1 in 4, come from MN.

Gee, 50 States, and MN is:   1 in 4 of, ALL, the rest of the States.

Yes, the,  Majority of, Somalians, 'here', are Not leaving for the land of, (rocks and sand),  because, they,  have discovered riches,  HERE, in 'exploiting'  the , 'Fairy Dust Sprinklers', (Greener Pastures).

While, the simple Majority, (or less than),  are, learning to live in this community.

Hello, is ANYONE LISTING ?

Let's bring,  MORE,  'TERRORISTS"  to the USA.
Let's,  EDUCATE them.
THEN, They can,  'GO BACK', and Use that  education, which, YOU  paid for, to do harm, to the Country, who  GAVE them everything !

Perhaps it is time, to have the,  Federal, Senators, and Representatives,  house the, 'refuges' from a country who has a very long history, of, Terrorism, in, THEIR  House !





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Reply #25 - 11/18/15 at 19:35:31
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/17/15 at 22:37:50:
" ... I'm sure many families send their youngest, strongest, boy to escape and settle in a new land, in the hopes that he will find work and shelter and then send for the family... "  


YES,  Exactly !
Key words here are: " ... find work and shelter ..."  It's  been that way for 300+ years.

But, today, it is: 'Come here, get a free education, then, 'go home', and use that free education to, work to, to destroy, the people that gave you that free education'.

Sorry, terrible things happen ALL over this world, ALL the time.
We feel sorry for you, but,  YOU, have to deal with it,  
BECAUSE, we here, need to take care of our own first.

That ain't, 'hiding under the bed",  it's  just,  'Reality'.



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Reply #26 - 11/18/15 at 19:53:52
 
Quote MnS:
"In fact, (it IS a FACT), the Second highest population of Somalians, in the WORLD, are living in St. Paul Minn."
..............................................................

In 2013:

 25,000 in Minn
103,000 in UK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Somalis_in_Minneapolis%E2%80%93Sain
t_Paul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalis_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Reply #27 - 11/18/15 at 22:09:12
 
Look up Dearborn, MI.  It has one of the highest concentration of Muslims outside of the middle east, certainly the biggest population in states.  World head quarters to Ford Motor Company is also located there, who would have thought?

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Reply #28 - 11/19/15 at 04:20:22
 
Now that these 3 year olds and widow women were caught where could a problem possibly come from as we all know our southern border is air tight and these two groups are bound to be the only two

http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passport...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at...

since these 3 year olds and widow women were caught all others will be completely veted using the vast data bases available to our agents from the perfectly functioning Syrian administration.  
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Reply #29 - 11/19/15 at 04:27:35
 
Sew: You can't let fear guide your morality...

Isn't that you when it comes to gun control?

There are 300 million plus guns in the US and only a very tiny, tiny fraction are ever used in crimes, yet you are so afraid, you torture yourself changing the definition of words in the 2nd Amendment, are willing to give government more control over even more of our lives, demand that I hand my security over to someone else's responsibility under all circumstances, would be willing to pass laws preventing me selling my property to another individual and on and on and on... there is no end to how far you would go to get rid of guns.........  all because you are afraid.  

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