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Reply #105 - 11/25/15 at 18:32:38
 
Sure,   ‘Islam’, a ‘Religion,
(Does NOT matter, ‘if/what’, that ‘religion is.
does not, matter, if you believe in that, ‘religion’ or any other.

The point is is,  Simply,    
The people, who ARE,  Believers, in a,  ‘Peaceful  Religion,
( In this case,  Muslim/Islam)

Are  NOT,   STANDING UP,    and, ’Taking Care of the’,
“COWARDLY   TERRORISTS’,  

 USING,  that,  “Name of that, Religion or people,
in their,  "COWARDLY  Attacks”.

THEY, should be FIRST   !!!!!
Not everyone else.

  And,   NOT,  ALLOW,   “media is what determines what we might hear”

Because, by,  NOT,  DOING,  is some thing, that,
the,  ‘Media’,    SELLS, it’s   Propaganda on.

If that,  ‘Religion/People’     DID   Something,  the,   ‘Media’,
Would   NOT,  Jump on  the,  ‘Bandwagon’,    !!!!!!

“ … Should I be judged by the deeds of others because they say Jesus, or God, told them to do something? …”
No,  you should not be be, ‘judged', by it.    But if you do  NOTHING, to correct it,  (or even  TRY to)   then YES !

“ … I know many of the Muslim faith who are dead set against ISIS, believing its a total miss-characterization of their faith. …”

Don’t Doubt that for a  Sec. BUT,   AGAIN,    WHY, is the responsibly or,  ‘OTHERS”  to do, what,   YOU, should do !!!!!!


of course,  ‘you’,  meaning the, ‘Peaceful,’ people of that, ‘religion.
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Reply #106 - 11/25/15 at 18:41:26
 
Logistically, how would you suggest Muslims 'take care' of ISIS terrorists?
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Reply #107 - 11/25/15 at 18:44:34
 
HovisPresley wrote on 11/25/15 at 18:41:26:
Logistically, how would you suggest Muslims 'take care' of ISIS terrorists?



Haven't got time to 'Feed the Troll'.

Your do the Math, it's rather easy !
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Reply #108 - 11/25/15 at 18:53:48
 
Math?

Why a troll? You've accused me of other things also.... which turned out to be false.
What is your grief?
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Reply #109 - 11/25/15 at 18:58:04
 
Do not know, where you live,
(House Condo Apartment, City, Country)
But is is apparent, you do, NOT, know the people around you.
What they do, how they are, what they feel.

The people in , ’that area’,
   DO  know this.
So it is SO APPARENT,  that they are,  
UNWILLING, to do something about it.
Simply, because they HAVE NOT, done something about it.

So, is it because they are:     >>>>>>>>


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Reply #110 - 11/25/15 at 19:06:25
 
"Unwilling" is different from 'unable'.

It's not as if there is a 'central government' for a religion, they speak many different languages, and are spread over half the globe, so how do they arrange the 'sorting out' of the terrorists?
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Reply #111 - 11/25/15 at 19:07:04
 
This is a comment to some article in Rolling Stone. Guys got the right idea. Treat muslims the same way liberals want to treat guns.

"We need sensible muslim control like a database of registered muslims, background checks for muslims, and a limited capacity of muslims. Nobody needs thirty muslims in their mosque. muslims should be designed to pray and not designed to maximize body count. We're not trying to take all the muslims away, but our children's safety is more important than some right enumerated by a dead white slaveholder. Only some crazy kook should oppose sensible muslim control."
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Reply #112 - 11/25/15 at 19:16:56
 
Ah......


“ … Should I be judged by the deeds of others because they say Jesus, or God, told them to do something? …”
No,  you should not be be, ‘judged', by it.    But if you do  NOTHING, to correct it,  (or even  TRY to)   then YES !

Spring, that is a trap.
This is war, plain and simple, never-ending as evidenced by the factions in the ME.

My witness is through a relationship with the Holy Spirit and evidenced by my actions, not words.
If I rise to a "challenge" by evilness, then evilness will dictate my actions, and it will be singing the tune to which I dance....

Darn, I wish I could convey this better...... arg.
But to cave to fear, fear of anything, then in reality you are surrendering your control to it.

If one was to conquer the threat of fear, one must remove the threat.
In our case, as humans, that would mean removing other humans.
We would have to extend this remedy till no other human existed, except self.
Gee ,now that does not sound like a party to me  Grin

I think I understand what you are feeling, and I think I understand why it causes you dismay.
This world is set on destroying itself, it is foretold, and we can't stop it.
It will get ugly, and it will cause grief and tear in the process.

Blind faith is what it will take to survive, and to be redeemed.
Of that I am sure, and yes, it sustains me, just as it has those who have gone before me and have shared the truth.
Non believers have no idea, or concept, of sustainability and rebirth, none. I can't expect them to understand, of what they are ignorant, but  that does not justify me and allow contempt to enter my heart...
Free will is just that, free.
When man hangs a price or responsibility upon its creation, he has sentenced himself to that which he leveled against the accused.

Goodness, I am giving myself a headache  Grin
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Reply #113 - 11/25/15 at 19:21:51
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/25/15 at 18:58:04:
But is is apparent, you do, NOT, know the people around you.
What they do, how they are, what they feel.

....................................................

How do you come to that conclusion?
(and please don't embarrass yourself by presuming a Youtube comedy video is representative of what the 'people around me' feel)

Can I suggest that you don't know the people around you because you grossly exaggerated the number of Somalis in your area....and went further by saying "This is a fact" to emphasize your point.  Wink  
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Reply #114 - 11/25/15 at 19:22:41
 
“ … accused you…”

‘’Troll’   With out a doubt.

“Progressive”,
  Your responses have shown that profoundly.

‘Ultra-Liberal’, That is  a  US term, for, ‘’Progressive”.

I have given my,  ‘Opinion’,   and you counter with,   Nonsense ‘quotes’.

Put up, more,  ‘QUOTES’,  from Facebook,  
about, “ someone who can not get a, ‘date’,”
to prove your point!

I’ll check in about 12  hours, what your   response is,
About what,  ‘Peaceful, Muslims’, are doing to,
Stop, the,  ‘Fringe’  COWARDLY Terrorists,, are.

AND NO  More,  QUOTES,  from,   ‘Facebook’,   DFI’s,  that can not get a date.
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Reply #115 - 11/25/15 at 19:23:38
 
I see how good cops should be able to root out the bad ones. They work together. I don't have any reason to believe that the actual peaceful Muslim ever even sees the radical. And what about Americans? We haven't been able to get adults, educated and literate, even Read the Constitution, many of those having taken an oath to uphold it, to read it honestly.
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Reply #116 - 11/25/15 at 20:00:10
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/25/15 at 19:23:38:
I see how good cops should be able to root out the bad ones. They work together. I don't have any reason to believe that the actual peaceful Muslim ever even sees the radical. And what about Americans? We haven't been able to get adults, educated and literate, even Read the Constitution, many of those having taken an oath to uphold it, to read it honestly.


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Reply #117 - 11/25/15 at 20:17:41
 
Dear MnS,
If I have ever quoted figures that are wrong, tell me.
If you ever want me to provide a source for any quotes or stats, I can do that.
If I've ever insulted anyone's mother, paste in a link.
If I've ever complained or reported anyone/thing to a forum mod, then enlighten us all to it.
If I reply with 'nonsense quotes' I eagerly await hearing as to why they might be nonsense.


But in return, remember that failing to see the humour in the 'text from a girl' pic, and failing to see the message that it wants to get across to the world, doesn't give anyone the right to be insulting.

I really do believe that you don't 'get' that picture (I used it to emphasize, not prove my point)....it answers all the questions as to why a whole religion can't stop the terrorists, and in a clever and imaginative way.

Also in return, please consider that trolling is often saying something outrageous, then sitting back to watch the mayhem.
What have I done to merit the 'Troll' tag you gave me?
Or is it a 'device' to enable you to not respond when challenged on 'Somali numbers' or similar instances.

I'm not insulted by being called progressive, etc, (is that an insult?) I was referring to something much older. (think 'admin')

So please, why the grief?

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Reply #118 - 11/25/15 at 20:23:32
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/25/15 at 19:23:38:
I see how good cops should be able to root out the bad ones. They work together. I don't have any reason to believe that the actual peaceful Muslim ever even sees the radical.

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My thoughts exactly.
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Reply #119 - 11/25/15 at 21:10:47
 
HovisPresley wrote on 11/25/15 at 20:23:32:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/25/15 at 19:23:38:
I see how good cops should be able to root out the bad ones. They work together. I don't have any reason to believe that the actual peaceful Muslim ever even sees the radical.

.......................................

My thoughts exactly.


I beg to differ, jmho.  I've long suspected they would be complaisant if not sympathetic to more so hard line beliefs.  

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6758207/1-in-5-British-Mus...

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