justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/17/15 at 20:28:49:


JOG, my observation was in hoping to show whatever they reach it is not, complete, or in total.
Even minds of young mush, come away with different perceptions of what they heard.
Schools use to teach the necessities, now they try and teach to the voids of society, which is constantly changing and offers nothing that is really marketable. You couple that with a merging world market, and workforce, and our children are sorely equipped to compete, and requires more assistants from our government to provide for them, what we use to be able to provide for ourselves.....
Now, I don't believe this was by design, as even a socialist minded person could see its not sustainable.

If we could back track a few decades and see how Johnson created the Great Society, here is just a brief outline:

The Great Society was a set of domestic programs in the United States launched by Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964–65. The main goal was the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. President Johnson first used the term "Great Society" during a speech at Ohio University, then unveiled the program in greater detail at an appearance at University of Michigan. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period. The program and its initiatives were subsequently promoted by him and fellow Democrats in Congress in the 1960s and years following. The Great Society in scope and sweep resembled the New Deal domestic agenda of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Some Great Society proposals were stalled initiatives from John F. Kennedy's New Frontier. Johnson's success depended on his skills of persuasion, coupled with the Democratic landslide in the 1964 election that brought in many new liberals to Congress, making the House of Representatives in 1965 the most liberal House since 1938.

Anti-war Democrats complained that spending on the Vietnam War choked off the Great Society. While some of the programs have been eliminated or had their funding reduced, many of them, including Medicare, Medicaid, the Older Americans Act and federal education funding, continue to the present. The Great Society's programs expanded under the administrations of Republican presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

Note the liberal landslide of the 1964 elections. This was a departure of governance into a more liberal one, where feelings trumped reasoning....
The idea and its goals were wonderful and just, who could argue otherwise?
However, as evidenced by the social/civil matters that still plague, and consume, so much of our dialogue and resources, it would be fair to say it never realized its lofty goals.
Why is that?
Who could argue against nirvana for all mankind?

Well, I believe it is a simple misunderstanding by so many who think with their emotions, instead of their heads.
To change a persons heart, you can make laws, or teach otherwise, but it will never become accepted.
Not only that, it will have the exact opposite effect from what was the original goal, inclusion of and for all.....

Who has the capacity to accept those who differ than themselves, and not feel challenged, or the need to correct those in "error"?

Who?

Who really understands tolerance, and lives by its meaning?

Who?

Who does not believe their views/beliefs are just, and opposing, lacking?

JOG buddy, this riddle is as old as mankind, even the apostles walking along side Jesus, bickered over these very issues and needs of self....
I must think inside Jesus was smiling to himself, as the folly of mankind  must have tickled him, as do our children, in their ignorance of youth, sit on Santa Clauses lap telling him of their desires and wishes  


The end is written, it was from the beginning.  
The best that I can do is accept it, knowing I lack the capacity to wrap any TRUE understanding about it......
Sorta like a Thanksgiving feast.
I see the meal in front of me.
I smell its wonderful aromas.  
I know as fact, it will satisfy my hunger....
However,
If I try to gobble it up in one bite,
I will succumb to the knowledge that I can't  

Ah.....such is life, live on until its done amigo  

No, Ray, that is not what they try to teach.
Go.
Listen to interviews with Charlotte Izerbyt. She was in D.C., DOE, and knows what happened and that, as I have said, it was intended.
I've explained it logically numerous times.
Adjustment made
Results failed
Did they UNDO what failed?
No. Are you smarter they are? If YOU were trying to increase the performance of anything and you changed something, and the performance DECREASED, would you just go change other things?
If you're 55 or older, you watched the arguments. You saw the insanity of it. I was young, and I saw it. The DELIBERATE dumbing down of America.. it's not a joke.

" ... As soon as you reach the point where you pay federal income tax, you can vote. ..."

What a Concept !
A Person can only decide, How, Their, money is spent, only if, they have, payed money.

But, certainly, that would be, 'un-fair', to all those who, NEVER HAVE, paid money.
Because then they could Not vote, to get things, that someone else Paid for!

Serowbot wrote on 10/26/15 at 10:33:42:

So, full-time housewives couldn't vote?... Severely handicapped?... Retired folk, living on Social Security?... The Donald probably gets enough write-offs and deductions to pay nothing...

“ …So, full-time housewives couldn’t vote?… "

Key word here is, ‘wife’.  Even though she stays home,
her name is STILL on the Tax Form.
In a alternate, marriage.  (M/M  F/F)
If only one works, and the other stays home.
Well, if they are, ‘married’, It’s a Joint return.
If their are Not married, I am sure a, ‘form’, to fill out, staying they are a, ‘couple’, could be easily word crafted.

“ … Retired folk, living on Social Security?… “

Well, if you are getting SS, how did you get it?
I know, I  PAID for what I get.   I, was, FORCED, to PAY for it.
It came out of,  earnings, (Like Everyone Else’s did), Which is TAXED.

The, Illegals, who have PAID Nothing!
Yet get SS, or a ‘IRS, ‘Refund’.
They have not, EARNED, the right to vote.
(Yet they STILL DO.   With the Help of groups like ACORN)

“ … Severely handicapped?…”
It will depend.
Mentally handicapped.  How, ‘old’ are they?   Not, physical age, but, Mental age?
Many do not possess the cognitive ability to vote.
(Guess that could be said about a LOT of People)

Reminds me of, Clinton's first term.  In N. Minn, a home for severely mentally  handicapped people.
The, ‘Director’, took 30+, residents, to the Court House, to vote, absentee ballot.
The ‘Director’ filled out their paperwork for them.
The, ‘Director’ TOLD them how to vote.
 However the, ‘director’ did not know, their were other people in the hallway, recording, his actions.
The people recording, took those, and their testimony to the AG of that County.
It was on the news, ONE time. And NOTHING was ever said about it again!

Physically, handicapped.  Were they born that way, and never had the opportunity to work?
Did they have some sort of accident, before they were able to work?
  Their are records for that, to make an exception.
If they became that way, from some event, after entering the work force.
Well then, they paid Taxes.

Well, then, who would, such a system, eliminate from Voting?
It would eliminate, the people, who are able bodied,
and have NEVER worked!  (And their are LOTS of them)
Welfare, IS, their, ‘work’.
It would eliminate the,  NOT, Citizen, or the Illegal Alien.
(And that’s not people from Mars)

The ‘cardboard box/under bridges’, people.
Well, did they work at one time?  Then they paid Taxes.
They Never Worked?  Well then they don’t vote.

“ … The Donald probably gets enough write-offs and deductions to pay nothing…”

Bot, I think you and me, together, (and most probably several more),
could live very well, of just what he pays in TAXES.

“ …  they have, payed money.  …”
Key word here is: “Have”.

Now would their be, ‘problems’?   Sure.
Would things have to be,  ‘adjusted’, to make do for some?  Sure.
Will their be, ‘exceptions’ ?    Sure.

Will the guberment, spend, MILLIONS +, implementing such a plan?  Sure

Oh, Wait, how about, ENFORCING the, LAWS, already in PLACE.
(Thinking that, would cost a WHOLE lot Less!)

Or  adding a very simple, “ Drivers License/ ID Card, required to vote ".
(Now that the Airlines, are going to require a, ‘Enhanced’  D.L. or a Passport to fly a DOMESTIC flight, in Just 5 States.
States where, a person can get a D.L. by NOT, proving, Citizenship.)

Let’s see,  Flankton, (‘er Franken), was elected, by ACORN.
BUSSES, full of people,  went to, SEVERAL Poles, (In his District)
And VOTED !
At the first place, they were handed a, ’T.V. Cable recite’, which allowed them to Vote.
At the Next Voting station, they were handed a, ‘Natural Gas Bill’, which allowed them to Vote.
At the Next, they were handed a, ‘Garbage Bill’, which allowed them to Vote.
And the Next, they were handed a, ‘Telephone Bill', which allowed them to Vote.
On the way home, they wanted some beer.
So the Buss stopped at a Liquor Store,
Guess what,   Someone HAD to produce a Drivers License, to Buy Beer !!!!!!!!!

Oh, on the Voter  FRAUD,  the States  A.G. said:  ’No Problem” !!@@@@)
(Can you GUESS, which ‘party’, he was ?)
I Guess it was like,  23,000 DEAD,  Indians, voting in S.D. Several years before.

Flat Tax, no deductions.   Never gonna Happen.
Only TAX Paying Citizens Voting.  Never gonna happen.
V.A.T.  (Value Added Tax)    Where, (Regardless of what someone makes)
Hamburger/Potatoes & Beer, would cost LESS than,
Caviar/Smoked Salmon & Champagne,  Never gonna happen.

So what do we do ?

Allow and welcome, Interlopers into this Country.
Where the ONLY, ENGLISH  Word they know is:
 Gimimy, Gimimmy, Gimimmmy?

Or, do, WE,  Stand up, and say:
“We will take care of our, OWN, First”  !