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Reply #76 - 10/24/15 at 05:35:07
 
David cut off Goliath's head. John the Baptist was beheaded.

So? Is this another lame attempt to make a moral equivalency between moderen day Christianity and Islam?

Sorry, but The Religion of Peace has today's market cornered on beheading as a terror tactic. What happened 4000 or even 400 years ago isn't particularly revelant to our immediate problem of ridding the world of these pest.
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Reply #77 - 10/24/15 at 09:54:26
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/24/15 at 05:35:07:
So? Is this another lame attempt to make a moral equivalency between moderen day Christianity and Islam?

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No it isn't.
But if it were, it'd include the fact that modern Western Christian countries have invaded and killed more (within living memory), than Middle Eastern Muslim nations have invaded and killed.

Maybe the 'religion of peace' looks different from a different angle.  Wink  
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Reply #78 - 10/25/15 at 17:09:21
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

This is old,  their are newer ones, from, 'Down-Under',
and I am guessing even newer ones,  soon to come from the US.

Just go to, you-tube, and search:
" Brand New Leather Jacket "

Just Love the chorus.
 "We get all the Benefits
You get all The Bills".




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Reply #79 - 10/25/15 at 17:48:25
 
Not really biting comedy, more like 3rd rate political propaganda, judging by the song's uploader.
As soon as I saw the swastika I wasn't surprised.

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Reply #80 - 10/26/15 at 06:10:03
 
HovisPresley wrote on 10/24/15 at 09:54:26:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/24/15 at 05:35:07:
So? Is this another lame attempt to make a moral equivalency between moderen day Christianity and Islam?

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No it isn't.
But if it were, it'd include the fact that modern Western Christian countries have invaded and killed more (within living memory), than Middle Eastern Muslim nations have invaded and killed.

Maybe the 'religion of peace' looks different from a different angle.  Wink  


because is suspect your definition of invaded is a bit warped, I call bull$hit. on that.
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Reply #81 - 10/26/15 at 16:28:01
 
HovisPresley wrote on 10/23/15 at 18:58:07:


Thanks for posting.   Smiley

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Reply #82 - 10/27/15 at 06:16:01
 
mpescatori wrote on 10/21/15 at 04:53:51:
Paraquat wrote on 10/16/15 at 09:23:57:
Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.


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Right.

I'll write that down and give it to a sculptor to make a marble plaque.

Then I'll send it to the Israeli Ambassador here in Rome.



There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all … The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic … There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. - Theodore Roosevelt

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Looks like I'm not the only one who shares those ideals.


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Reply #83 - 10/27/15 at 07:39:14
 
Quote WM:
"because is suspect your definition of invaded is a bit warped, I call bull$hit. on that."
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Okay, let's not include invasions, but let's say bombing, sabotage and attempted government overthrow of foreign nations since WW2.....

China 1945-46, Syria 1949, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53, Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Tibet 1955-70s, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959, Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960-65, Iraq 1960-63, Dominican Republic 1961, Vietnam 1961-73, Brazil 1964, Belgian Congo 1964, Guatemala 1964, Laos 1964-73, Dominican Republic 1965-66, Peru 1965, Greece 1967, Guatemala 1967-69, Cambodia 1969-70, Chile 1970-73, Argentina 1976, Turkey 1980, Poland 1980-81, El Salvador 1981-92, Nicaragua 1981-1990, Cambodia 1980-95, Angola 1980, Lebanon 1982-84, Grenada 1983-84, Philippines 1986, Libya 1986, Iran 1987-88, Libya 1989, Panama 1989-90, Iraq 1991, Kuwait 1991, Somalia 1992-94, Iraq 1992-1996, Bosnia 1995, Iran 1998, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan 1998, Yugoslavia Serbia 1999, Afghanistan 2001, Iraq 2002-2003, Somalia 2006-2007, Iran 2005-present, Libya 2011.

This list needs updating, of course  Wink
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Reply #84 - 10/27/15 at 09:20:11
 
As I suspected......
Couple questions

*Hey, would you say the US invaded France in 1944?
*How many on your list would you say were glad as hell we 'invaded' them?
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Reply #85 - 10/27/15 at 09:49:51
 
I think we invaded France, when we put a Disneyworld there... Grin...
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Reply #86 - 10/27/15 at 11:46:52
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/27/15 at 09:20:11:
As I suspected......
Couple questions

*Hey, would you say the US invaded France in 1944?
*How many on your list would you say were glad as hell we 'invaded' them?

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Answer 1: Surely 1944 isn't postwar? In that World War, most of the world was at war, so statistics are more transparent in postwar, and still within living memory.
Worth remembering that the majority of those in WW1 and WW2 were  Christian.

Answer 2: All of them, naturally, hence the popularity of the USA's foreign policy.

What percentage of that list do you think weren't "glad as hell"?

Now add to the list all the countries that 'christian' Britain has invaded/occupied/sabotaged, etc, (either within living memory or post WW2).

Wow! That list really shows the Christian nations are peaceful. And that's only two of them!
These actions were taken not by radical extremists but by the mainstream democratic governments (gulp)

So, those two countries (for instance) have bombed the $hit out of most of the world, for most of our lives, but themselves have never been invaded.

Not surprising that the (ahem) 'other guys with the oil' might want to punch the bully back..... (after purchasing the arms from 'you-know-who')

Let's call 'capitalist greed' the 'religion of peace'  Wink
 
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Reply #87 - 10/27/15 at 13:09:45
 
I think my questions went unanswered (which was predictable) and another ridiculous statement made.

So, those two countries (for instance) have bombed the $hit out of most of the world

So let me try again: Is the world better off being dominated by Christian nations (US, Great Britian)  Muslim nations (Saudis or Egypt, or Iran)  or atheist nations (the Nordic nations, maybe throw China in there) ?
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Reply #88 - 10/27/15 at 15:59:53
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/27/15 at 13:09:45:
So let me try again: Is the world better off being dominated by Christian nations (US, Great Britian)  Muslim nations (Saudis or Egypt, or Iran)  or atheist nations (the Nordic nations, maybe throw China in there) ?

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The world is better off being dominated by none, would be my answer  Roll Eyes

Why didn't you answer my question, after your ridiculous statement about Nordic countries?
I don't know for sure, but Wiki says about Norway:

"About 74.3% of Norwegians were members of the Church of Norway on 1 January 2015. In 2014, about 59.3% of all newborns were baptised and about 62.9% of all 15-year-old persons were confirmed in the church."

Similar story in Sweden

As for the 'bombing' bit, even if the list only has a dozen of invaded countries, compare that to the times the US and UK have been invaded...
How surprised can you be that what you consider to be the 'aggressor' often are people who have had enough then join together and punch the bully?


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Reply #89 - 10/27/15 at 18:05:44
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/27/15 at 13:09:45:
" ...  my questions went unanswered (which was predictable) and another ridiculous statement made. ..."    ((( from a response Posted by: HovisPresley. ))) 

Which is the reason I do not respond to the, 'troll'.

" Oh, if this get's your 'hair up', why have you not EVER, responded, to the post where you were asked, SEVERAL Times, by SEVERAL people,   WHY,  you think, Margret Thatcher's quote about 'Socialism' is wrong. Instead of talking about two, mappers', in the 1700's in the UK".

But then again, YOU, are Special !
You, Complain to a Moderator, about someone saying, (In Essence), 'Put your, Big Boy Pants, ON'.  
YET, You, can say someone does NOT have the Inelegance to see your,  'French Fry' joke.  AND, INSULT their Mother.
But,  That's, OK.    (A-Yep,  Your,  "Special")

"We Get ALL  the Benefits
You get ALL the Bills"


The,  'Content', is not worthy of thought, or discussion ?
  Because, of the, 'person' who,  "posted",  that clip ???????
When that, song, is from SEVERAL Countries, by Several People.
Over SEVERAL  Years time span. ?"??

Oh,  here is another one.
  (POSTED By SOMEONE ELSE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmQXDpqmmg





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