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Re: Down a Slippery Slope: what Muslims think of I
Reply #30 - 10/14/15 at 11:58:35
 
mpescatori wrote on 10/14/15 at 01:01:03:
"....Are you aware that as long as the Ottoman Empire ruled, Jews and Christians were leading a peaceful life,


My apologies but I have to stop you here, this is pure garbage.
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Reply #31 - 10/14/15 at 16:59:18
 
mpescatori Said: " ... The Syrians the US is volunteering to host are Christians.   ..."

Really, All of them?

If you say so,
guess it's just like Minn then,
where all one has to do, to get their tabs/plate, for a M.V.,
 is, 'say', they have Insurance.  
(Don't NEED no Stinking Proof).

Oh, mpescatori,  
If you ever want to come to Minn in the Summer,
(it's really beautiful),  
I have a lot here, for sale, cheep,
and it's Ocean Front!

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Reply #32 - 10/14/15 at 19:00:47
 
mpescatori:

RE: Ocean Front Property in Minn.

Lest you believe I am being, ’sarcastic’, let me explain.

That, ’Swamp Lot’,  (in MN),  has water in it.
Water flows down hill.
That water from that lot, flows into a little ditch.
Which flows into a bigger ditch,
which flows into a small lake,
which flows into a bigger lake,
Then then flows into a small river,
then flows into a larger river,
Which Then, flows into the Mississippi river.
Which then flows into the Gulf Of Mexico,
Which Then flows into the Atlantic OCEAN.

So you see, it  IS,  Ocean Front Land.   !!!!!!!!!

Just the same, as  ALL, Refugees, coming into the US, are, ‘Christian’.
And, NOT, People wanting to, ‘BEHEAD’ us,
because WE, do NOT succumb,
to, THEIR ways !

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Reply #33 - 10/15/15 at 04:50:01
 
How long until we hear about the relatives that are going to get a free ticket because they didn't make the first trip?

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Reply #34 - 10/15/15 at 07:13:32
 
MnSpring wrote on 10/14/15 at 19:00:47:
RE: Ocean Front Property in Minn.

Lest you believe I am being, ’sarcastic’, let me explain.

That, ’Swamp Lot’,  (in MN),  has water in it.
Water flows down hill.
That water from that lot, flows into a little ditch.
Which flows into a bigger ditch,
which flows into a small lake,
which flows into a bigger lake,
Then then flows into a small river,
then flows into a larger river,
Which Then, flows into the Mississippi river.
Which then flows into the Gulf Of Mexico,
Which Then flows into the Atlantic OCEAN.

So you see, it  IS,  Ocean Front Land.   !!!!!!!!!

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I wonder if the Danes used that water to make the beer they sold you!!
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Reply #35 - 10/15/15 at 08:05:15
 
OK, lost in translation, "going back to the 1st grade" IS an idiomatic expression, meaning "you are missing the basics", in this case, basic facts.

Germany volunteered to "take in as many Syrian refugees as is necessary - provided they are Christians"

My source (which I lost, being one of the many screenshots of MSN.com (of which I sometimes succeed in getting the US version) simply said the US is considering following German example and accepting Syrian refugees...
"German example"...

Having said that, I wouldn't half dare kissing WM's A$$ fearing I might kiss his face by mistake...    Cheesy

Last - I do lioke that ocean front opportunity, I still have some 30-y.o. Argentinian Bonds which must be worth a fortune in interest !!!

Cool
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Reply #36 - 10/15/15 at 08:39:08
 
As I said in my opening post: the purpose of this thread is "to inform you that Muslims here in [Western nations] are extremely alarmed by ISIS and are concerned that Egypt and saudi Arabia are doing/saying nothing about the whole matter."

At which point, I ask myself...

- how many of you have a passport ?

- how many of you have ever travele to Europe? Or Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia, which are secular states, certainly not "Islamic"...

- how many of you have any in-depth experience of life in Europe or the secularize states I mentioned...
Keep in mind saying "I was in the USAF and was posted three years in Izmir" only means that for three years you lived in-base and ate imported food...
I know, I was posted 4 years in Bagnoli (JFC-Naples, formerly AFSouth) and regularly visited your PX and Commissary - seeing US Servicemen buy steak, cereals or canned soup imported from the US is one thing, but fresh produce? Lettuce and tomatoes imported wholesale from across the ocean? Milk and dairy? As in, many had the tendency to lock themselves "in the wire" and knew next to nothing about the Nation they were guests of...

So I'm not surprised of this "OMG a foreigner! An Alien!" attitude many of you sport.

Geez...  Lips Sealed

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Reply #37 - 10/15/15 at 09:44:14
 
mpescatori: Please cease attempting to confuse us with facts and logic..
The "experts" and "commentators" on the  (corporate owned)entertainment media will confirm any view point we wish to hold (no matter how absurd).  So PLEASE Cease. Stop. And Desist your confusing dialog using facts, logic and big words.

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Reply #38 - 10/15/15 at 12:36:01
 
mpescatori, you do NOT know me.

I have a passport. I lived in Germany/France. And I was military.

Hey, guess what? I ATE THE LOCAL FOOD. Had dinner in local homes. Enjoyed coffee at local cafe's. Even enjoyed the BEER.

But, I wasn't WELCOMED by all locals. In fact, it was the opposite at most local joints, we even had a BLACKLIST back on base. Why, because that beloved EU of yours hated us!

I did my best to make peace with locals, I've had plenty of cultural diversity training, and it stuck with me, the whole tolerance thing.

Don't try to lump us all in the same pot.

To answer your question: I could give a rat ass what or who isis is or what they stand for. How about you take your issue(s) to the locals?
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Reply #39 - 10/15/15 at 12:39:37
 
mpescatori, this should get your britches in a wad:

I even helped my oldest boy (combat infantry) with questions he had about South and North Korea. He asked me for data on their culture, as he didn't want to "live in the wire" and wanted to EXPERIENCE their culture.

Go figure, an AMERICAN soldier learning about another culture? Unheard of right? Like finding a unicorn!

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Reply #40 - 10/15/15 at 18:59:42
 
Let’s see, what are the possibilities.

1. Some one from the USA, goes to a different Country,  
and stays in the house, (Invited), of a member/s,  (who are on this site).
 (Who lives in Italy.    Or maybe in the UK)
They have a, key to the house, a bedroom, and a bathroom, at their disposal.
Their plans are to stay for two weeks, maybe three.
They will take their meal/s, outside the home, and
when, invited, sit down at the family table for a meal.
They will adjust to, the place their are in,
and abide by all the customs, of that Local.
And they give a, ‘stipend’, in the form of a gift,
for the  graciousness of their host.
Their may be times, when, ‘fluid of the grape’, is consumed,
And long discussions, which may last several hours, occur.

2.  Someone, (perhaps from the UK or Italy) comes to the USA,
and the same things, (above),  happen.

3. Someone from the USA, (or ANY Country), takes into their house,
a, Family, from, any, (Place in the Mesopotamia area).
Would all the above apply ?
OR, would, ALL the meals, be expected  to be taken at the ‘Family’ table.
And ALL, the food requirement, be expected to be changed.
And the, Host, be expected to PAY, for ANY, Altercations for,
Food, Bathroom, Sleeping , ‘requirements’. ?
And, the, ’stay’, be, 2-3 YEARS.

4. Let the, "Guberment do it”.
It will then, ONLY cost a few dollars more in Taxes.

Which of these,  ‘Possibilities’, do you think is feasible ?
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Reply #41 - 10/15/15 at 21:02:38
 
I'm wondering if all this squawking was going on when we took in all the refugees from the failed USSR? Or Operation Paperclip?

I'm in classes with a huge number of refugees from all over the planet, where's all the squawk about them?
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Reply #42 - 10/16/15 at 01:31:46
 
Aha ! fair comment ! I await the replies.
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Reply #43 - 10/16/15 at 01:54:55
 
A couple thousand scientists, engineers, and technicians is much more acceptable.  A direct benefit exists do to their abilities as well as the opportunity cost to ensure the Soviets didn't receive their knowledge.

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Reply #44 - 10/16/15 at 03:04:17
 
pg wrote on 10/16/15 at 01:54:55:
A couple thousand scientists, engineers, and technicians is much more acceptable.  A direct benefit exists do to their abilities as well as the opportunity cost to ensure the Soviets didn't receive their knowledge.

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That's easier to tolerate compared to hundreds of thousands of people who are going straight to the well fare doles as soon as they arrive.  I'm not certain how many of them have any intention of assimilating to the new culture as well.

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