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What a strange political season.....
10/11/15 at 07:43:33
 
Politics seems to have always been spinning its own reality, but this cycle sure seems to be pushing the envelop.....
Seems like both parties are imploding from internal pressure.
The fuse is people really are tired, even if it appears emphatic, real results, and consequences, are forcing the whole arena to move into uncharted territory.
I would hazard to guess the "not satisfied with any candidate" membership has now exceeded those kool-aid party faithfuls, and no political machine knows how to gather them, or squash them.
It really looks like an outsider is preferred over the entrenched.
The media is all over the place with coverage, and can't seem to hedge its bet with a winner....
I saw Hillary get some tough questions by what in normal cycles would have been just another opportunity to campaign under the guise of journalism....

In the end, I think it is a very healthy trend, lets hope it brings about some real vetting and change to a system that sorely needs it.
Face it folks, we quickly are losing our world dominance, not a bad thing in itself, as that means a lot of other nations are experiencing healthy growth upward and joining in global relationship, people are the direct recipients with better healthcare, living standards, etc.
I think Obama is out in front of this, however, his method and communication is lacking, but again, we have never been in this position, as a nation before.
I don't believe for a second he is selling us out, critical reasoning would establish he would only loose everything he gained, in his rise to power, leaving those very causes ( gay rights, GW, women's rights, etc)  in jeopardy, as these global alliances still operate from their tightly held beliefs and may never be discarded, for capital gains and commerce, or what we might call, civilized social advancements, at a cost  Grin
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Reply #1 - 10/11/15 at 16:48:20
 
Not selling us OUT? The only reason he was selected as the candidate over Hillary was because he could more EFFECTIVELY get the People to go along with his selling us out. Wait till you see the full effect of
Bamicare and the new TPP deal they never let us see , TRANSPARENCY in action. You think NAFTA sucked? Remember
Level the playing field?
They didn't lift up the other countries, they tore us down.
Am I really the only one who remembers the press held , against their will, on a plane they had been suckered onto, told the candidates would come and answer questions, while Hillary and Obama went, illegally, to meet with the conveniently meeting in America, Bilderbergers? Go look it up. She stepped aside and Handed him the candidacy.
They have All been selling us out since Kennedy.
What did you think IKE was warning us about?
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Reply #2 - 10/11/15 at 17:32:03
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/11/15 at 16:48:20:
Not selling us OUT? The only reason he was selected as the candidate over Hillary was because he could more EFFECTIVELY get the People to go along with his selling us out. Wait till you see the full effect of
Bamicare and the new TPP deal they never let us see , TRANSPARENCY in action. You think NAFTA sucked? Remember
Level the playing field?
They didn't lift up the other countries, they tore us down.
Am I really the only one who remembers the press held , against their will, on a plane they had been suckered onto, told the candidates would come and answer questions, while Hillary and Obama went, illegally, to meet with the conveniently meeting in America, Bilderbergers? Go look it up. She stepped aside and Handed him the candidacy.
They have All been selling us out since Kennedy.
What did you think IKE was warning us about?


I understand it looks like he is selling us out, I get that, BUT.......
It, the One World Order ( for a lack of a better term) will come together regardless of who is president, it is inevitable JOG.
This is NOT a new, uh, revelation, buddy  Grin
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Reply #3 - 10/11/15 at 17:42:42
 
The reason it looks like it is he Is..
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Reply #4 - 10/11/15 at 17:52:20
 
You can't worship capitalism and be against globalism...

The one will enable the other...

Where cash is king,.. money Rules... Huh...
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Reply #5 - 10/11/15 at 18:08:36
 
Excuse me?
What does one have to do with the other?
Capitalism and national sovereignty fit together. And what you CALL capitalism isn't. I see huge problems, but they are not the fault of capitalism, per se, but cronie capitalism, purchased influence, legislation to favor certain people AT THE EXPENSE of others.
That's wrong and it's not capitalism, it's racketeering.
I don't worship capitalism, but I see it for what it is. You're a capitalist.
Show me one instance in history where socialism worked.
You believe things are getting better in the EU? Anywhere?
The game is old, believe what suits you. We've been dragged into
Progressivism, and we are a society in decline. And the left blames the knuckle dragging mouth breathing bitter clingers for holding them back from bringing society into the light, if only they had no one to hold them back, Ohh the world we could all have.

Maybe you don't, but many believe that wealth in one man's pocket means that money was somehow wrongly removed from the pockets of others. Those people have no clue where wealth, the honest, real description of wealth, comes from.
Think back even the beginning of society. No one was born wealthy.
Somebody GOt wealthy. They tamed and bred animals , slaughtered and sold, bartered, whatever, but made progress in the world financially, some kinda currency had to be created, Wealth isn't a zero sum game. Would you be morally wrong if you were the guy who had a scientific breakthrough and designed a product that generated a thousand watts of heat at the cost of a hundred watts of input and sold it to people who saved money on electricity and you made millions? How much of the money would you keep?
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Reply #6 - 10/11/15 at 18:25:45
 
Try,.. Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands ... Huh...
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Reply #8 - 10/11/15 at 18:50:08
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/11/15 at 18:25:45:
" Try,.. Denmark,  

Let’s see, Know of Denmark, have been their several times.

Rent: Cheep, (I suppose it is sorta like ‘rent controlled’ in NY.)
Health care: Everybody gets it, FREE, (although you have to WAIT)
Food: Potatoes, cheep cuts of meat, vetagables, etc. Cheep.
Busses: Public Transportation, Real Cheep.
Going on the, ‘Dole’, (Welfare):   Easy !

BUT !
Gas:   Really Really HIGH !
Tobacco:  43 years ago a pack of smokes cost the US equivalent of 7.40 !!!!!
\   (was paying .35 CENTS in the US)
Beer: Again 43 years ago, a 6 pack of, ‘cheep’ beer cost 20.00.
Car: Only if your were  VERY, rich, could you afford to have a car.
Taxes:   Only about 65% of your wages !!!!!!

The the, ‘RICH’ People.   Guess what, MOSTLY were,  ‘Government Officials”  !!!!!!

This is the way, some people, WANT, the US to go ???????
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #9 - 10/12/15 at 03:41:46
 
Capitalism is getting addicted to "things" to make us feel better and more informed, wiser, etc....
Instead One World Order, lets say, One World Market  Grin
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Reply #10 - 10/12/15 at 05:34:25
 
"Beer: Again 43 years ago, a 6 pack of, ‘cheep’ beer cost 20.00."  Shocked

They obviously saw you coming!  Grin Grin Grin

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Denmark
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Reply #11 - 10/12/15 at 10:51:10
 
Well American even divised the ever so popular buy your hearts desire..... on credit .
Heck, it's worked so good even our gubbermint does it 😝
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Reply #12 - 10/12/15 at 21:01:35
 
Capitalism is working for personal gain. It's natural. It's instinctive.
Charity is also natural for most. Having a government shove a Gun in my ribs and Tell me I will Give, and how much and to whom and for what is tyranny.
Using money to buy influence in order to get legislation passed that limits the small guy from competing on equal footing for market share is cronie capitalism, or, actually, fascism. It's been going on for a long time. We've seen farming manipulated using subsidies,,driving out the small family farms . Who benefited from NAFTA? What's in the TPP, the latest so called trade deal Mr Transparency has kept from not just the public, but our representatives. No sane person who wanted good things for Americans would be doing these things. We have seen education
Need Fixing, on the news daily, Ohh, the failure, Ohh the need for change. And every change resulted in lower performance, which, rather than UNDO the changes, they used the decreased performance to lobby for more money and power to make further changes, resulting in decreased performance, again. The cycle is continuing, and schools are more indoctrination center than learning center.
Unemployment rates are admittedly lies. Once your benefits run out, you're no longer counted as unemployed.
Tell me where I'm wrong and Tell me how any of that stuff is reasonable.

Listen to Charlotte Izerbyt, note her position in the Department of education.
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Reply #13 - 10/14/15 at 19:01:05
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/12/15 at 21:01:35:
Capitalism is working for personal gain. It's natural. It's instinctive.
Charity is also natural for most. Having a government shove a Gun in my ribs and Tell me I will Give, and how much and to whom and for what is tyranny.
Using money to buy influence in order to get legislation passed that limits the small guy from competing on equal footing for market share is cronie capitalism, or, actually, fascism. It's been going on for a long time. We've seen farming manipulated using subsidies,,driving out the small family farms . Who benefited from NAFTA? What's in the TPP, the latest so called trade deal Mr Transparency has kept from not just the public, but our representatives. No sane person who wanted good things for Americans would be doing these things. We have seen education
Need Fixing, on the news daily, Ohh, the failure, Ohh the need for change. And every change resulted in lower performance, which, rather than UNDO the changes, they used the decreased performance to lobby for more money and power to make further changes, resulting in decreased performance, again. The cycle is continuing, and schools are more indoctrination center than learning center.
Unemployment rates are admittedly lies. Once your benefits run out, you're no longer counted as unemployed.
Tell me where I'm wrong and Tell me how any of that stuff is reasonable.

Listen to Charlotte Izerbyt, note her position in the Department of education.




Bravo, well stated my friend!
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Reply #14 - 10/15/15 at 20:36:34
 
But the masses want to forget about how all that happened and the continuing destruction to society those things cause, and until we undo these basic things, we will not have demonstrated ANY abilities to Actually demand FROM D.C...
In an honest and healthy economy, we don't NEED Bamicare.

We actually PAY for the unemployment figures,,, and we know that those figures are lies. Sounds like fraud,racketeering, and since the lies are made public online, wire fraud, too, I THINK,though I'm not a lawyer.
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