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Reply #90 - 10/12/15 at 08:20:30

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/11/15 at 16:56:55:

That's how it is interpreted. I'm not able to believe that is the Intent.
Would you write a law that made every baby born in the country automatically a citizen, even if its parents weren't?
You're real quick with demanding explanations in the Second Amendment, why would they have included
And subject to the jurisdiction..?

I cannot believe you said that...

Where did your forefathers come from ? Who was the first of your ancestors to boast American Citizenship ?
Was it granted to him or did he have to pass a scpecial exam ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli VS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis

You see, your Forefathers wrote a law that grants automatic citizenship to any and all children born in the US.
Else, you'd all be German or British or - God forbid - Italian... Cheesy

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13164 Gender:	Re: School Shooting Reply #91 - 10/12/15 at 10:52:28 You see, your Forefathers wrote a law that grants automatic citizenship to any and all children born in the US. No, they did not. Courts took an amendment written about slavery and applied it broadly.
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Reply #92 - 10/12/15 at 15:08:18

In context, this was a new frontier, most of the people populating it were coming from across the pond....
With that in mind, they were by default the first citizens, and it declared their offspring born would be automatic citizens and could not be claimed by the throne or other entities....
This was implemented to squash all challenges, even those loyalist who still claimed their mother country as home...

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9375 Minn Gender:	Re: School Shooting Reply #93 - 10/13/15 at 10:49:13 So then, if a, 'group', of people, The SAME, 'group', who are desperately trying to change the 2nd, 'Because it needs to be up-dated to Modern times'. Think the 14th, is, Sacrosanct, and should NOT be changed ?
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Reply #94 - 10/13/15 at 18:24:08

People who move here, legally, and become citizens, THEIR offspring are
Under the jurisdiction of the USA.
Does someone who invaded your house and had a baby in your basement have reason to expect you to raise it? Do you have a right to tell them they can't take the kid or while it's in your house it has to have your last name, I.E., member of your family?
The C is intentionally being misinterpreted and misapplied.

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Reply #95 - 10/14/15 at 01:15:28

"People who move here, legally, and become citizens, THEIR offspring are
Under the jurisdiction of the USA. "

I think it's broader than that.

My mother was never a US Citizen, but she was in the US legally.

She had a child and that child acquired US Citizenship.

So, being the fundamental condition "legally in the US", it is technically possible that a European tourist, legally in the US
(why would a Frenchman ever want to illegally emigrate to the US? Cheesy

) has an early delivery... yes, that baby will have US Citizenship.
And anyway, no sane woman would ever want to go and tour across the planet 2 weeks from "time". Wink

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Re: School Shooting
Reply #96 - 10/14/15 at 17:37:39

mpescatori wrote on 10/14/15 at 01:15:28:

" " ... My mother was never a US Citizen, but she was in the US legally. She had a child and that child acquired US Citizenship. ..."

Yep, ‘Dual Citizenship” till 21.
And your Mother could, NOT, be deported,
as long as she was with her child.

But, I seriously doubt, your Mother ever said:
[i] ‘GIMMIE GIMMIE, GIMMIE”

“ … And anyway, no sane woman would ever want to go and tour across the planet 2 weeks from “time”. …”

Again, better tell that to the, ‘mothers’, crossing a river,
in some cases, just HOURS, before birth.

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