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09/20/15 at 08:53:34

I can't say I'm surprised.

To comply with the 2005 Real ID Act, which the U.S. government has been slowly implementing for the past decade, citizens in a number of different U.S. states will now be forced to obtain a passport if they want to board an airplane - even for domestic flights.

The Department of Homeland Security and representatives with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection have declined to comment on why certain states have been singled out, but starting in 2016, residents of New York, Wisconsin, Louisiana, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and American Samoa will need a passport to fly domestically. All other states will still be able to use their state-issued driver’s licenses and IDs — for now, at least.

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/drivers-licenses-new-york-domestic-f...

http://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they

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Reply #1 - 09/20/15 at 09:08:38

I can't comment on the other states, but here in the Peoples Republic of New York the fault lies squarely with the the powers that be in New York. After ten years - the law was passed in 2005, NY hasn't managed to make NY Drivers licenses compatible with the new security requirements. Something that almost every other state has managed to accomplish without a whole lot of difficulty apparently. New York is so far behind the eight ball on this one that the State DMV is actually negotiating with the DHS for an extension on implementing the law specifically for New York. Roll Eyes

Much as I dislike the Feds I really can't blame this one on them.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #2 - 09/20/15 at 10:14:14 I wonder who will win the contract to implement the install of mandatory chips, on our person? Evil will only be conquered by the power of the one who has the ability to conquer it. Place your chips (bets) accordingly
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Reply #3 - 09/20/15 at 10:43:43

Well, ‘Chips’, ARE, already, implanted in some people.
They are implanted, at request,
or by a requirement of a very high level job.

This is the, start, of, Everyone, having, ‘chips’, implanted.

(For Better Security) of course !

“What, you don’t, want to have a ‘Chip’ ?
You must be a, Savage, who does Not want to be part of a, ‘civilized’, society”

Gee, just think, how convent that would have been, in the late 30’s in Germany?

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #4 - 09/20/15 at 11:05:11 MnSpring wrote on 09/20/15 at 10:43:43: Gee, just think, how convent that would have been, in the late 30’s in Germany? ..................................................................... They'd have been called 'pommes frites'
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9068 Minn Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #5 - 09/20/15 at 18:46:12 Quote: hovis said: " They'd have been called 'pommes frites' A-Yep, 'French Fries', ie, (pommes frites'), have a LOT to do with Implanting RFID Chips in Humans.
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Reply #6 - 09/21/15 at 04:39:28

MnSpring wrote on 09/20/15 at 18:46:12:

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hovis said: " They'd have been called 'pommes frites'

A-Yep, 'French Fries', ie, (pommes frites'), have a LOT to do with Implanting RFID Chips in Humans.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Papers Please Reply #7 - 09/21/15 at 05:57:55 We'll need to be a cash-less society and the chip will be necessary for all purchases before that prophecy is fulfilled. How many years do you think before we are there? Best regards,
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #8 - 09/21/15 at 06:03:11 And a Wiseco 95mm piston to give 666cc
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Reply #9 - 09/23/15 at 06:44:20

A few years ago New Mexico residents were told that they would require passports to board domestic flights. The reason ? New Mexico issues drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants (No requirement of proof of citizenship, but DID require proof of "residency" in the state)..... (Feds backed down).

Given the states and territory involved, the Feds must fear an invasion of Cajun zombies......

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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #10 - 09/23/15 at 06:59:36 Odd thought... When I was a kid, (early 1950s) we were informed that in comparison to the Russians, Americans could travel any where in the country without any form of "official papers". The Russians were required to have official permission and an internal passport to travel at all. Now it is 2015 and.........
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28433 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Papers Please Reply #11 - 09/23/15 at 07:21:08 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/23/15 at 01:10:44: But, we don't need a fence, we need the laws enforced,,employers financially wrecked, cops catch an illegal at a traffic stop, arrest, deport. It's a lot simpler than They want you to believe. A 2,000 mile physical wall is ridiculous...and indefensible... ...
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Papers Please Reply #12 - 09/23/15 at 16:58:42 Quote: A 2,000 mile physical wall is ridiculous...and indefensible... ... What do you propose? How many is too many? How do you justify our tax dollars going to millions of foreigners? Best regards,
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Reply #13 - 09/23/15 at 17:38:10

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/23/15 at 01:10:44:

But, we don't need a fence, we need the laws enforced,,employers financially wrecked, cops catch an illegal at a traffic stop, arrest, deport. It's a lot simpler than They want you to believe.

I quoted JOG's suggestion for a reason...

We should enforce the laws on the books,.. make penalties higher if need be...

Also,... allow illegal's to get Drivers license's ... then they can get insurance...
Then, also,... they can be identified...
As it is,... they drive without license, or insurance, rarely registration... putting us all in danger...
Make it a special "green" license if need be,... but get these people on the books... and at least, make it possible for them to drive legally...
No ID doesn't help anybody's cause... Huh

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It's not a gift or a privilege,.. it's a way to keep track of who they are, and make sure they are legal on the road...

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Reply #14 - 09/23/15 at 18:12:03

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Also,... allow illegal's to get Drivers license's ... then they can get insurance...
Then, also,... they can be identified...
As it is,... they drive without license, or insurance, rarely registration... putting us all in danger...
Make it a special "green" license if need be,... but get these people on the books... and at least, make it possible for them to drive legally...
No ID doesn't help anybody's cause... Huh...
It's not a gift or a privilege,.. it's a way to keep track of who they are, and make sure they are legal on the road...

Probably only work if the Licenses, insurance and registration were free. Otherwise why would they bother.

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