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Reply #45 - 09/20/15 at 09:00:50
 
It's been happening since time began...

I'd be all for encouraging responsibility,... but not ruining lives for mistakes...
Should we not fix skateboarders broken legs because they didn't think ahead?...
We ride bikes... how responsible is that?...
Sex happens...  mistakes happen...

Read up on the history of infanticide...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide

Nothing new here...
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Reply #46 - 09/20/15 at 10:09:51
 
I hear your argument, I understand its reasoning, yet, it does not solve the abortion issue really.
Fact is, it dilutes the real activities PP provides in the other services it provides.

As gun control advocates highlight only the mass shootings, and not all the other elements of responsible gun activities, so does the anti abortion groups.

You can claim its as old as time, and you are right, just as the Arabs and Israelis, Hatfield and McCoys, etc, conflicts,  and murder itself, does not  make it acceptable.
If we used such reasoning in accepting discrimination (of others)  based on that excuse, we would not over come it....

Maybe I just believe man has the ability to see beyond self, and I base my hopes on that, I dunno.....

We waste so much energy on fighting and blaming, and any chance at civility, seems hopeless....
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Reply #47 - 09/20/15 at 10:23:18
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/20/15 at 09:00:50:
" ... Should we not fix skateboarders broken legs because they didn't think ahead?... "


Of Course not.
No one want's to, stop, a skateboarder, from getting a broken leg repaired. Or a MC’er getting a body part fixed.  Etc. No one will, punish them for a , mistake.

That is NOT the Issue.
The Issue is, RESPONSIBILITY.

MOST, Skateboarders, KNOW, They are Responsible for their failed trick resulting in a broken leg.
It’s not, You or Me.

The skateboarder, does that, ’trick’, knowing, a result may be a broken leg.
If it results in a broken leg, they KNOW, that was the risk, and they get it fixed.
They do NOT, ask you or me, to Fix it !
They do not, EXPECT you or me, to pay for it.

That is, Completely different, than, a person,
who, has no responsibility for their actions,
(Never has, because they have been TOLD, they don’t)
Having, you and me, PAY, for their ‘fun’.
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Reply #48 - 09/20/15 at 10:31:16
 
"That is, Completely different, than, a person,
who, has no responsibility for their actions,
(Never has, because they have been TOLD, they don’t)....."
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That is a very bold statement....
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Reply #49 - 09/20/15 at 13:17:14
 
HovisPresley wrote on 09/20/15 at 10:31:16:
"That is, Completely different, than, a person,
who, has no responsibility for their actions,
(Never has, because they have been TOLD, they don’t)....."
.................................................................

That is a very bold statement....


Bold you say.....perhaps, but then tell me why in sex ed classes, pictures of abortions, and testimony of those who have had them, and how it has impacted their lives way more than the minutes of pleasure intercourse can provide, are not highlighted as much as putting on a condom?

Why is it young folk are expected to make life altering decisions based on incomplete , or, only one side,  of the issue?

The same mentality, about getting high, seems to be in common with abortions in educating folks about the other consequences of such actions, if not exhibited in a responsible manner...

Mothers Against has shown the light on it, and that is a good thing.
Up here in Washington, we even have the gubbermint airing ads, some really good ones too, about getting high, or BUZZED, and driving, yet, for all its good, the glamorization in movie, and song, by " liberal free interpretation "  can have way more influence on folks than what a gubbermint can undo...

This, if it feels good, do it, mentality has had its impact all on us, a heil of a lot more than fast food, or second-hand smoke....
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Reply #50 - 09/20/15 at 16:55:42
 
Should we not fix skateboarders broken legs because they didn't think ahead?...

broken legs are not a human life. Sorry, maybe it's an unfair burden for women, but the instant you become pregnant, you are responsible for two lives. That's the way it goes.

We'll go around and around on this as we've done before so probably pointless to a certain extend. All I know is, PP needs to be excluded from any federal money, a full investigation needs to be launched and the democratic candidate needs to explain why it's acceptable to have laws that allow a woman to kill her baby,(a completely separate human entity) based solely on the value of that life place on he or she  by the mother.
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Reply #51 - 09/20/15 at 17:35:54
 
Quote:
Clinton could have said re: Monica, "I made some bad choices in my personal life, it is between these people I hurt by my actions, and no one elses....."


Yes,  another position would have been, (when asked in the 1st press conference),
  "That is NONE of your Business, Move on, Next Question"

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Reply #52 - 09/20/15 at 22:23:07
 
Behavior that could get someone blackmailed is our business.
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Reply #53 - 09/21/15 at 04:33:36
 
I thought Bill said to Monica;

" I want you to sack my cook "

because he wasn't impressed with the food in the White House.  Grin
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Reply #54 - 09/21/15 at 05:59:50
 
HovisPresley wrote on 09/21/15 at 04:33:36:
" I want you to sack my cook "


Was that an Englishmen's attempt at a southern draw?   Grin

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Reply #55 - 09/21/15 at 06:07:54
 
Surely 'drawl' ?

More of a vowel-swap....
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Reply #56 - 09/21/15 at 19:35:00
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/20/15 at 16:55:42:
Should we not fix skateboarders broken legs because they didn't think ahead?...

broken legs are not a human life. Sorry, maybe it's an unfair burden for women, but the instant you become pregnant, you are responsible for two lives. That's the way it goes.

We'll go around and around on this as we've done before so probably pointless to a certain extend. All I know is, PP needs to be excluded from any federal money, a full investigation needs to be launched and the democratic candidate needs to explain why it's acceptable to have laws that allow a woman to kill her baby,(a completely separate human entity) based solely on the value of that life place on he or she  by the mother.


because until a point, it's NOT a completely separate human entity.
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Reply #57 - 09/22/15 at 05:59:58
 
I'm so far out of the loop, and I haven't been following this thread, but LostArtist's comment resonates with me.

If you're going to cut funding to Planned Parenthood, why do I still have to fund welfare babies?


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Reply #58 - 09/22/15 at 09:14:48
 
To quote the 'bot:
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Reply #59 - 09/22/15 at 12:01:24
 
Funding for abortion, on a fereral level, is already against the law, so to speak...
And as I stated earlier, abortion is just one small element of what PP does.
I would say a better way to go with this is a third party audit, to see how much, where, how, etc, they use tax payers money....
I think it should be mandatory to audit any program, that uses tax money......

How much money did we spend to train rebels in Syria, all 5 of them???????   Shocked
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