As much as I despise Hillary, I agree with how she dealt with the unreasonable stance that she was facing.

Huh.....

Try this one then  

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/18/hillary-clinton-accused-victim-blaming-duri...

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https://www.youtube.com/embed/TepT0Ttwz7M

This is 3 minutes and will give you a birds eye point of view.

Best regards,

“If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what you need to do,” Jones said to Clinton.

“I’m not telling you, I’m just telling you to tell me,” Clinton shot back.

“This is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us,” Jones responded as Clinton interjected.

“If that is your position, then I will talk with only to white people about how we are going to deal with very real problems,” she said.

“What you just said was a form of victim-blaming,” said Jones, eliciting a grimace from Clinton. “You were saying what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to is change white hearts is to…”


She said

Tell us what we need to do.

Okay, do I believe she would? No. Not the point, not the response.




“This is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us,” Jones responded as Clinton interjected.


A statement, taking the position that there's no point in trying.

Her response was spot on. And that's from someone who wouldn't stop to piss on her if she was on fire.
Now, if she WASN'T on fire, that'd be a whole different thing.

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I think you're giving them(the BLM folks) too much credit. They're just pissed at white folks and believe that white people are out to get them, when the truth is that most whites don't give a crap about them one way or the other. They haven't really figured anything out.

I think you are correct in your assessment, and that was most likely the reason for the Great Society, but again, you do the victimhood argument, which has led to a dependency mentality of many who did not, for whatever reason, escape the trappings of two strikes....

You can blame the right, for obstructing the left's attempts, as the reason, it is the liberals standard retort, I even think THEY get that now, and that is their message.....

I think education and mentoring, as many reply they had no parent figures in their lives, might provide some relief.....
It will take time to insert new life values that correspond with their lives, that have meaningful, tangible, and sustainable results, that WILL be passed on as a society norm, resulting in ones healthy acceptance and appreciation of self.

The church could be a great conduit for many programs, however many on the left would have separation issues I'm sure....
Trade schools would be great too, but then the unions might want a piece of the action.... I dunno.

The above two examples show not victimhood, but pawnhood, of how these folks have been played.

I think we are seeing a concentrated lifestyle of dependency that was never the intent of the program.....
Most likely this programs were seen as a jump start, but have become a way of life for many.
One can not possess self respect, eventually giving in to other toxic behavior in trying to overcome the feelings, and emotions, of low self esteem.... it is indeed a trap.
BTW, whites are trapped just as much in this entitlement mentality, I have many friends who just don't get it, and can longer connect the dots to having a healthy, sustainable life that THEY are in control of....
It just not as "concentrated" and reported, as its not as vogue, nor garners as much readership, as reporting the Black community.

At this point we either blame, turning away, or try and listen, and help....

It ain't going away, and MOST of all, politicians better quit playing with people's lives in order to achieve their SELFISH desires

Edit: Bot, I know you believe in trying to level the playing field, and that is a good thought and provides you with a good feeling of self, almost empathetic....
However, in pragmatic terms, its like having only one flavor of ice cream, or only sunny days, or only harley's.....
It removes everyone's own uniqueness and expressions, which is often the motivation in music, art, etc....
Obstacles give rise to overcome, which gives birth to self esteem, and acceptance of self, WHICH, gives opportunity to teach others...

There is one avenue available to a level playing field, it already exists, however, since much of its design escapes us, we discard it as folly, a waste of time.... a fairytale.
It is even in print already, has been for a spell.....
But, since some don't believe in it, they really don't want others to have it, either....
Why, because they think they know a better way....
I am still waiting to see positive results of that thinking, as decay of society seems to be eroding the playing field rather quickly, and that is with, or without, guns.....

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http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-a-brief-for-whitey-969

Pretty interesting article, I copied about 1/2 of it.

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.