Point I was making is
Crime stats

They don't readily point that out, and if they did. It would be lower than actual count.
The propagandists in the media hype every shooting, and how often do we get a weeks worth of every hour on the hour the story of how a good guy thwarted an assault of a stranger or a robbery?
I'm sick of the
Child shot dead
story WHEN that child is a sixteen year old gang banger in a drug related shootout with a rival gang.
And I did hear about the little girl, killed, mom wounded,in a drive by.
If they catch them, I vote they be drawn and quartered with family members on hand, pouring salt in the cuts. Needs to be televised.
And WHEN the good guy stops a bad guy, instead of arresting them, haul them downtown, get some reporters, hang a medal on them on the courthouse steps.

MnSpring wrote on 09/08/15 at 13:46:17:


My two cents.

In Italy (and Europe) a cellphone is just like a land line, you CANNOT have a cellphone if you don't provide name, address and the equivalent to your SSN.
Period.
Yes, of course we DO have "rechargeables", meaning than when your credit runs out you go to a store, buy a scratch card and type in the code and you have new credit
BUT
all phones are traceable to the current (or, at worst, previous) owner.

IT'S ALL ABOUT FIGHTING CRIMINALS

Secondly, calling the Police for a wanton false alarm is a felony - this side of the ocean, at least.

I'm surprised that with the Patriot Act and all that a terrorist cell can buy a handful of uncoded cellphones and get away with it...

WD wrote on 09/21/15 at 22:36:31:


Patriot Act and such are primarily used against politically and socially conservative Whites.

Liberals can pretty much do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, to whomever they want, and get a free pass. Liberal in this case meaning Marxist, Jihadist or Zionist. [/quote]
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If they are Marxist, Jihadist or Zionist, then they are the opposite of Liberal, by definition.  

old.indian wrote on 09/22/15 at 08:01:29:


Funny how that works, ain't it?... ...

Serowbot wrote on 09/22/15 at 09:03:03:


Well, actually it doesn't work, Bush was about as Conservative as Mitt Romney, no one who increases the size or scope of government is a Conservative. Bush and Cheney were liberal Republicans, which has very little to do with Conservatism but you did get the race part right  

I usually carry in a Gallo SOB holster when I'm out in public because it's the most concealed in everyday actions. I was at a supermarket about 3 months ago doing some shopping, paid for my groceries and was pushing the cart to my car when 2 uniformed cops approached me holsters un clicked and proceeded to perform a felony take down. They made me put my hands on my head, kneel then lay down. With gun drawn one officer put his knee in my back, called out to his partner that I was in fact carrying a weapon. I was cuffed and sat upright. Through this entire process I was not asked any questions just told what to do. My gun was removed from my holster and taken. After about 10 minutes of being treated like a criminal I was finally asked why I had a gun. At this point I was so pissed off I was less than compliant and the yes sir no sir was out the door.

After presenting my CCW (mind you I'm still cuffed behind my back and had to tell the officer to get it from my wallet) and waiting for the radio to tell them I was no harm and had no police issues I was finally uncuffed. At this point I had zero intension of answering any more questions and asked for my gun so I could leave. One of the officers tried to unload the gun and return it to me and I told him he was out of his mind. All in all a 45 minute fiasco where I was cuffed and detained in the middle of a busy parking lot because I was carrying a gun with the legal means to carry it.

One question I was asked was why do you need your gun at the grocery store? I told him I earned the right to carry it so who cares where I do as long as I am doing it legally. I turned to the armed security guard standing at the entrance to the store and said my having a gun in the store isn't necessary but he is?

I asked the officer how would this have gone down if I had my kids with me. Both of which are under the age of 3. His response was "well maybe you shouldn't carry when your kids are present" so if I didn't have a gun on me which btw is legal for me to do none of this would have happened. I said what your telling me is I shouldn't have wasted 3 years trying to obtain my california CCW because this is the result of being a responsible gun owner in this state.

On my angry drive home I realized who called. I bent down to grab a case of water and there were 2 older women behind me. I'm covered in tattoos, bald head with a big beard. I'm sure all kinds of thoughts went thru their heads

I know there are some who are thinking why take a gun to the grocery store. I've been a CCW holder for 18 years. When I'm getting dressed in the morning my gun is like a watch or wallet, it's part of my wardrobe. It's always been that way. I put it on without thought. More times than not I have to remind myself I'm going somewhere that I can't carry and probably just as often I have to remove it and place it in the glove box because I inadvertently go somewhere that I can't carry. It's just habit after so many years of carrying.

His response was "well maybe you shouldn't carry when your kids are present"

That had a visceral effect. I'm disgusted. That's exactly WHEN you need to know ,,, creepy guys, there..