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irishjake YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33	oil 09/01/15 at 12:21:13 Hi guys , well with all of your help my bobber build is nearly there.I want to start her up but first I need to put in some oil. Living in Ireland it would seem that it is not possible to buy Rotella here. Castrol classic has been suggested but their seems to be some doubt as to its zddp content plus its 20w50. So any suggestions?
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: oil Reply #1 - 09/01/15 at 12:25:13 Most of us have no idea what kind of oil you can get in Ireland. You should be looking for an oil with 1,200 ppm of ZDDP, and no friction modifiers. Depending on the temperatures your ride in, 20W-50 might be a tad thick.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: oil Reply #2 - 09/01/15 at 12:28:23 On amazon I ordered some ZDDP additive. A lot of folks get red line brand, I think I ordered eastwood. Anyways, just a thought. Best regards,
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Reply #3 - 09/01/15 at 18:14:09

I don't know how oil is labeled in Ireland but here in the U.S. we have a label that states "Energy Conserving". You don't want that! You can check online for whatever oil you're interested to see if it is wet clutch compatible. That's the oil you want.

If you happen to find out how much zinc is in the oil then you can boost it to 1100-1200 ppm with Redline ZDDP additive.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9348 Minn Gender:	Re: oil Reply #4 - 09/01/15 at 18:43:34 Their is a, AMSOIL, oil product, which has Zinc, in it, I think 1200 PPM, But is is about 12.00 a quart here. Don't know, if that's available in Ireland. If you can, 'Net' order. Get Rotella, and Redline.
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Reply #5 - 09/01/15 at 18:57:24

I visited www.shell.ie they list shell Rimula oils as heavy duty diesel oils. Whether these are the same or similar to Rotella I can't say. I do note that some in the 10w-40 range are suffixed F6 whereas this forum favours Rotella T6. If you go down this path, and it would do no harm to contact Shell Ireland regarding ZDDP content stay away from anything suffixed F6E as these are energy saving. There is a site, Bob the oil guy who may help.

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Reply #6 - 09/01/15 at 20:49:53

jcstokes wrote on 09/01/15 at 18:57:24:
I visited www.shell.ie they list shell Rimula oils as heavy duty diesel oils. Whether these are the same or similar to Rotella I can't say. I do note that some in the 10w-40 range are suffixed F6 whereas this forum favours Rotella T6. If you go down this path, and it would do no harm to contact Shell Ireland regarding ZDDP content stay away from anything suffixed F6E as these are energy saving. There is a site, Bob the oil guy who may help.

The T6 is a fully synthetic oil. I dont recall anyone here recommending synthetics Huh

I bought the T1 straight grade Rotella 15w-40. Did I get the wrong oil?

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Reply #7 - 09/01/15 at 20:57:24

Boogie_with_Stu wrote on 09/01/15 at 20:49:53:

jcstokes wrote on 09/01/15 at 18:57:24:
I visited www.shell.ie they list shell Rimula oils as heavy duty diesel oils. Whether these are the same or similar to Rotella I can't say. I do note that some in the 10w-40 range are suffixed F6 whereas this forum favours Rotella T6. If you go down this path, and it would do no harm to contact Shell Ireland regarding ZDDP content stay away from anything suffixed F6E as these are energy saving. There is a site, Bob the oil guy who may help.

The T6 is a fully synthetic oil. I dont recall anyone here recommending synthetics Huh

I bought the T1 straight grade Rotella 15w-40. Did I get the wrong oil?

Look at your label again, T1 is straight 10, 30, 40 or 50, not 15w-40.

We favor Rotella, some lean T, some T6.

I lean T6.

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irishjake YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33	Re: oil Reply #10 - 09/01/15 at 23:44:17 Thanks guys I think I will give She'll a call will let you know what I find out
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: oil Reply #11 - 09/01/15 at 23:47:41 From what I can see on the Shell USA site. Rotella is also listed as a heavy Diesel oil.
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Reply #12 - 09/02/15 at 00:05:30

I believe you can get Mobil 1 Racing 4T in Ireland. You can run that with no ZDDP additive. I'm currently running Mobil 1 Racing 4T, but I don't like the price. I'm due for a change and I've already got the Rotella T6 on the bench and waiting for the filter to arrive in the next few days.

Boogie_with_Stu wrote on 09/01/15 at 20:49:53:

I bought the T1 straight grade Rotella 15w-40. Did I get the wrong oil?

I second what Versy said...T or T6 is the stuff.

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Reply #13 - 09/02/15 at 04:06:29

jcstokes wrote on 09/01/15 at 23:47:41:

From what I can see on the Shell USA site. Rotella is also listed as a heavy Diesel oil.

Rotella is a "Heavy Duty Engine Oil"........it is suitable for use in diesel engines, and also rated for use in gasoline engines.

It is rated for use in motorcycles and wet clutches as it does not have any friction modifiers.

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Reply #14 - 09/03/15 at 01:15:04

Thanks guys this is turning into a bit of a nightmare. I thought I would be able to just pop in to my local bike shop and pick up some oil. I've contacted a few companies to see what they think. Will let you know if they ever reply. Rimula is apparently not suitable. Why do you not have to add zddp to mobile 1 ? Does anyone know of someone or a company that could send Rotella over here ? Thanks again for your help

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