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Reply #45 - 07/31/15 at 17:17:50
 
Personally, I'm still waiting for Mark's response to the GMO issue, But I'm all ears (very small pickled ones) ....


Mark, straight question, when does a couple of cells become an independent human being, with it's own rights, etc?
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Reply #46 - 07/31/15 at 17:23:56
 
I believe they, DID, do something wrong.
From reading everything I can,
they, Did, something wrong. (SELLING, Human Parts)

Take a look at thel fine points.

Let say, it cost a person, 1,000 to do this, ‘job’.
That, 1,000 includes, ALL, overhead, supplies, Wages, Utilities, Disposal, etc.
(That why the cost is, 1,000)

Now, those, ‘parts’, that may get sold, (or donated, for a fee if you prefer),
does that mean, if the, ‘Donation’, was 200,  the person that Paid 1,000,
gets a 200  rebate ?

I don’t know, never done that before.
But I just DON”T  Think so.

Another example,  A  ‘Junk’ Dumpster.
A Company, (Many States/Cities have Many of these services)
Provided you with a, ‘Dumpster’, Your pre arranged agreement is, what ever the weight of the things you put is is, ‘X’ amount, (Disposal Fee), PLUS the, ‘Dumpster', Fee.  

Now, many companies, will, ‘Dump’ out your, ‘Dumpster’, SORT, the things that can be sold at different Scrap values, (Far ABOVE the fee you paid), then, ’dump’ a small % of that total, (that you paid), ‘For dumping. And Receive Many times for the, valuable, ’scrap’,

That is called,  PROFIT!
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Reply #47 - 07/31/15 at 17:33:05
 
Quote:
“ … when does a couple of cells become an independent human being,  …”


Ah, their is the question?

Some say, ‘When the Sperm & Egg first divide”
Some say, “When Born”.

And that debate, will go on, and on, and on, and on, etc.

My Problem with that, ‘decision’ of what is what,
comes from;

Let’s say a woman is Pregnant, (NEVER IS THE LENGTH OF THE PREGNANCY STATED)
And she is Killed in a  Auto Accident.
The person causing that accident, is charged with, TWO, Deaths.
Not One.
 WHY ?
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Reply #48 - 07/31/15 at 17:44:22
 
No,.. you misunderstand.

Let's say the abortion procedure costs $1000...
Now,.. a bio research facility wants you to extract certain tissues...
This takes additional time, and then you must package it, label it, store it,  probably put it on dry ice in a cooler, arrange for it to be delivered or picked up.
This is additional cost. These costs range from $100 to $500 additional.
To help fray this additional cost, they are permitted legally to charge a fee.
PP's fees are in the range of $30 to $100... the rest of the expense is absorbed by PP...
Human remains or body parts do not just get popped into the mailbox...

PP does not make any profit,... they lose money... but, the research is important and valuable, so they do it...
All this is done with the full knowledge and permission of the patient.

Other facilities that do the same thing, have looked at PP's fees, and they all say they are way under the actual cost...
So this is not a crime...
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Reply #49 - 07/31/15 at 20:17:38
 
I love the one where this only matters because it connects the repubs to their base, like they are using it as political fodder...
But Obama can call much attentition to a white killing a black kid and never once mention the black on black crime.....
Yes sirree..... Those rascally repubs, how dare they....eh Forrest 😛
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Reply #50 - 08/01/15 at 00:17:19
 
I certainly hope the right is unable to destroy PP. Dspite their rederic, PP provides a much needed sevice to a great many women.[color=#ff0000][/color]
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Reply #51 - 08/01/15 at 05:19:01
 
If that were true phat, why dont they stop killing babies?
Simple, its good money. Maybe we're just now finding out how good.

Oh, and they dont even do mamograms. so lets not pretend they're something other than a money making corporation using my tax dollars.
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Reply #52 - 08/01/15 at 06:12:49
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/01/15 at 05:19:01:
If that were true phat, why dont they stop killing babies?
Simple, its good money. Maybe we're just now finding out how good.

Oh, and they dont even do mamograms. so lets not pretend they're something other than a money making corporation using my tax dollars.



okay, then let's not pretend that the Military is something other than a money making corporation using MY tax dollars, so quit hollaring about us liberals yelling about the military industrial complex. making our military nothing more than glorified mercenaries. If that's going to be your take on how money affects things...

They do cancer screenings and STD treatments and various other sexual health issues, the reality is that conservatives just get all  uncomfortable even talking about sex that they can't even have a realistic conversation about it, which is why they are usually for abstinence only education, which is useless, here's a bucket of sand, maybe your head will fit in it...
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Reply #53 - 08/01/15 at 06:43:20
 
You are a dupe for liberal talking points which are built on the beliefs of about 1% of conservatives.
I have no problem with PP actually fulfilling the mission behind it's name, but killing babies as a matter of convenience and for birth control, yea, I've got a problem with that.

oh, and dont object to the birth control line. Why are there 10's of thousands of abortions in predominantly black areas of NYC for example? PP has carved out a nice little business there. Health of the mother! right.... give me a break. It's after the fact, government sponsored birth control in most major inner cities.

Gee, and we wonder why blacks in inner cities kill themselves nightly like they have such a wanton disregard for human life....Now where could those kids have possibly picked up that idea from?....
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Reply #54 - 08/01/15 at 15:41:49
 
Health? Breast cancer is statistically linked to abortion. Think about the body,all jacked up with hormones and creating a baby... spend time looking, unless it's just not something you can accept.
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Reply #55 - 08/01/15 at 16:40:40
 
American Cancer Society disagrees... Huh...
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcancer/moreinformation/is-abortion-linked-...
" At this time, the scientific evidence does not support the notion that abortion of any kind raises the risk of breast cancer or any other type of cancer."
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Reply #56 - 08/01/15 at 17:21:55
 
You don't really believe that a go on owned agency would point a finger at a go on supported one, do you?
http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/index/

Maybe exposing yourselves to information that contradicts go on propaganda.
How many lawsuits against drug manufacturers for selling FDA approved drugs before trust fails?
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Reply #57 - 08/01/15 at 17:56:52
 
American Cancer society vs. some quack anti-abortion site based in a residential suburb of Chicago...
Hmmm,... lem'me think... Roll Eyes...
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Reply #58 - 08/01/15 at 17:58:23
 
I get it.. stay true..
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Reply #59 - 08/01/15 at 18:09:02
 
If I have a car problem,.. I'll trust the advice of a qualified mechanic over a Jesus freak, suburban housewife...

If I need cancer studies evaluated,... I think I'll trust the ACS over her too...
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