justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/30/15 at 20:39:40:



All I'm asking is for moderation and common sense, quit all the super hyperbole BS. You've got Trump for that now.  

I think Lost is a having a bad day, today... (all my best, Lost)...

...but, I see his point...
When you have no dog in the fight, the rhetoric is that much clearer...

There really is no comparative to a poached lion and an aborted fetus...


Ultimately... I see this issue as a difference in perspective...
One can define a human "life" as any collection of cells with DNA that is human (although, this might make clipping your nails more painful)...
... or,... it could be defined as any human DNA that is gestated long enough to be viable...
Beyond that,...(roughly 3rd trimester,... I would still justify termination if the life of the mother, or the viability of the fetus were an issue...

Regardless,... a dentist, with a Putin sized thingy,.. does not enter the equation...

The real disagreement,.. is as to whether a bundle of human DNA, is a person...
... and also, whether human life is so precious, that it can never ever be sacrificed, even for mercy sakes...


We do have DNR requests.... and in a "free" country, you might expect that you have the right to your own life (although even that is disputed)...

I would say,...although it's easy to paint the world in black and white,.. it's the shades that matter...
...

Serow wrote; "The real disagreement,.. is as to whether a bundle of human DNA, is a person..."
Exactly.
I don't know why people use the word "baby" when clearly it is not.
Here is a picture of a 'baby' when it was a zygote:


















Cute, isn't it?

Lost artist, I think you have exampled the argument of many on the right, how the opposition assigns negativity to them, as being a racist, or homophobe, etc, when all they are doing is sharing their beliefs of any giving subject/topic and it does not agree with Obama or the gay community.....

Tolerance is a two way street.
If not practised equally, conflict will ensue......civility being lost, and with that, hope.

According to the Media Research Center, ABC, CBS, and NBC’s news broadcasts dedicated 11 minutes and 13 seconds since July 14 to stories relating to the Planned Parenthood videos and 14 minutes and 1 second since July 28 to the killing of Cecil, a lion in Zimbabwe. While media coverage of the killing of Cecil was uniformly outraged, coverage of the videos showing Planned Parenthood’s fetal organ harvesting programs ranged from non-existent to muted. There was no outrage.

Jimmel Kimmel is not the point Lost, he's just a single example of the f'd priorities we have. Network news devotes more time and with a singular position to a hunt than selling baby parts?

And to those who keep trying to debate the undebatable, we're not talking about a group of cells. They are stiring a pot around looking for usable body parts.

"It's a boy!" she exclaimed. A boy! Get it? This was a human being discarded as a matter of convenience to the mother.  Now the organization who profited (and likely told her donating the tissue will help cure cancer
or something in order to ease any guilt) is selling that boy's body parts.

hey, here's a question: who are the customers? Can't be that many organizations who do research on fetal baby parts? And why do they need intermediaries to do the negoiating? If Columbia University needed tissue to work on, why pay huge fees to get it. The undercover people were posing as buyers. PP says they aren't making profits on the sales (which is BS)  but you can be darn sure the real buyers get paid a pretty penny to secure fetal baby parts for their clients. They're taking doctors out to lunch in Manhattan and drinking wine. We were in Manhattan a couple months ago working at Bellevue Hospital. i took the FM out for lunch at Greek place around corner. I recall for 3 of us, it was $50 and no wine. I could have spent a couple hundred and my company wouldn't have batted an eye cause the potential business return was huge. I suspect the return for these people dwarf what we stood to make.

Lot of questions. Lot going on besides killing baby boys.

Web,... you tend to generalize all abortions as late term, and fully formed.
This info, believe it or not, came from Fox News... ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/06/17/fast-facts-us-abortion-statistics.html
Quote:


Out of 1.6 million,... only about 100 are 3rd trimester.  At that stage they would be viable if they were otherwise healthy.
100% of these .01%, are either grossly deformed (ie., water brained, or missing organs, or spine on the outside, etc),... or, the mother's life is in serious danger (often cancer)...
At 8 to 12 weeks it would take a medical specialist to tell a human fetus from that of a rabbit or a mouse.



PS... What the heck is F12?... I Googled it and got a Ferrari?... ...

Their cost is between $100 and $500 specimen,... and they charge $30 to $100...

I don't think the "Donald" would approve of that business model... ...