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Have a belt on me..
07/22/15 at 08:02:37
 
Some pictures of what a worn belt might look like.

It had not snapped.. yet.

The other belt I had that DID snap has the same cracks on the outside.

If a moderator wants to move this to Tech, go for it.







The inside of the belt did not show any cracks.

And, for the curious, I use the "9mm socket wrapped in a rag and stuffed between belt and drive pulley with impact wrench" method to remove the nut.   Wink
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Reply #1 - 07/22/15 at 08:11:04
 

This is NOT a hurley davison rubber belt (just wanted to get that clear since so much of what you read out on the net comes from hurley sources).

Do not use rubber belt thinking on our drive belts -- they are a super tough plastic material with cording that runs across the entire width that actually have different rules.

Those cracks are NORMAL for our belts, and mean almost nothing as far as how much life is still there.

From the looks of it you are spraying a lot of stuff on your belt.

Instead, bevel the edges of the teeth with an angle grinder as per tech section and stop having the squeaks.

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Reply #2 - 07/22/15 at 08:27:37
 
Why would I spray the outside of the belt?
I spray nothing on my belt.  It squeaks a bit when wet, but OK otherwise.
What you might be seeing is good old dust and dirt.

So, OF, how does one know how much life IS left in a belt?

I snapped my first belt at appx 70,000 miles.  This belt had appx 65,000 on it.
I would much rather replace it NOW then get stranded.

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Reply #3 - 07/22/15 at 08:56:29
 
HD musta had a shortage of rubber belts cause my buddies HD has the same belt as us... just narrower.

My experience with archery strings (some dacron and a whole lot of kevlar) says the only thing they don't like is to be bent.  avoid that and they'll live a lot longer.

Dacron is stretchy, so when bent all the fibers remain under load.
Kevlar is not as stretchy so when bent only some fibers are under load.  But boy do you get a lot of zing.  I'd get a 1000 shots outta a kevlar string which was about a months worth.  Dacron lasted all year and you replaced it just cause.

So can you tell the life by the cracks, maybe they are the only indication that the belt has been bent enough times to fatigue the plastic.  But you really can't tell if it cracked due to a manufacturing defect that wouldn't affect the life of the belt.

All I would spray on the belt would be a sealer of some sort like wax.
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Reply #4 - 07/22/15 at 08:58:06
 
Am I the only one not seeing anything?... Undecided...
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Reply #5 - 07/22/15 at 09:03:00
 

When the strings begin to break the belt pulls a hole in itself, which gives you time to get another one.

We have had people push rocks through the belt and make a sizable hole and keep on using the belt for years waiting for it to break.

..... your mileage may vary .....

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Reply #6 - 07/22/15 at 09:04:04
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/22/15 at 08:58:06:
Am I the only one not seeing anything?... Undecided...

IDK... what aren't you seeing?   Grin
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Reply #7 - 07/22/15 at 09:24:48
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/22/15 at 09:03:00:
When the strings begin to break the belt pulls a hole in itself, which gives you time to get another one.
                      Wink


You have pictures of this?

I will post some pictures of the belt that did snap.  I saw no evidence of a hole.  
No, it wasn't under a lot of strain at the time it broke.  I was pulling away from a stop sign, shifted to second, and thought I had hit neutral instead.
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Reply #8 - 07/22/15 at 09:30:38
 
Pictures of the snapped belt.  Photo's could be better.  
I will happily send this to anyone (you pay postage) for postmortem analysis

As you can see, the same cracking as seen on the other belt.



No holes, dents, or anything.


Same here.


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Reply #9 - 07/22/15 at 09:31:29
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/22/15 at 08:58:06:
Am I the only one not seeing anything?... Undecided...


IDK either.  What are you seeing?  Cheesy
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Reply #10 - 07/22/15 at 09:37:56
 
Seeing them okay now,... must have been a mini-stroke... Huh...
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Reply #11 - 07/22/15 at 14:18:27
 
That what it is Serow? I must be having one also, cause' I can't see some of the signature photo's.

I'll take a peek at our belts and see what I can... probably nothing though, cause both are still under 10k I think, but 70k... is that good or bad for belt?

I know parts wear, but what is the average life for a belt?
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Reply #12 - 07/22/15 at 21:04:15
 
Wow YouzGuyz !  I feel like I'm learning the "Way of the Belt " .    I got just under 50,000 miles on my first bike+Belt.   Never got 50,000 miles on a chain !  Wink

I'll take the belt any day ... Would have made my second bike a Triumph Speed Master if it was belt instead of a chain / so I went with the Sportster.  Smiley

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Reply #13 - 07/22/15 at 21:12:52
 

And let's all mark the spot where we jam that socket in between the belt and drive sprocket before hitting it with the impact wrench, just to see where the "sudden breaks" takes place relative to the mark ......

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Reply #14 - 07/22/15 at 22:00:40
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/22/15 at 21:12:52:
And let's all mark the spot where we jam that socket in between the belt and drive sprocket before hitting it with the impact wrench, just to see where the "sudden breaks" takes place relative to the mark ......

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If you look at the pic you'll there's no tension on the belt.  It's pinched between the socket and the case at the fat part of the belt.  the force is transferred to the pulley by the socket.

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