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Reply #15 - 07/13/15 at 04:43:14
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/12/15 at 12:57:57:
You expect tolerance of intolerance?...  Undecided...

Yes, it's a free country. and one has the right to be offensive, rude, and intolerant...
That don't mean I have to like it...

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“I had to run. My grandmother had numbers,”

I'm not sure you grasp the magnitude of that.  I am sure the vendor doesn't...


Theodore Herzl did, and exploited it very well...

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Reply #16 - 07/13/15 at 05:47:37
 
Pesci,, maybe five will grasp what that means.
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Reply #17 - 07/13/15 at 06:30:14
 
I'm glad you guys can see the root of the argument. I'm catching a TON of flack on VolusiaRiders for this post.


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Reply #18 - 07/13/15 at 07:00:08
 
raydawg wrote on 07/13/15 at 04:08:24:
Strength is saying no, and not enabling a person, letting them the satisfaction of being able to provide for himself and the satisfaction it derives....
Not the selfish act of giving what you can't really give and then patting yourself on the back to build your own self esteem....

That's the "Conservative Jesus"... Grin...



"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

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Reply #19 - 07/13/15 at 07:24:58
 
Paraquat wrote on 07/13/15 at 06:30:14:
I'm glad you guys can see the root of the argument. I'm catching a TON of flack on VolusiaRiders for this post.


--Steve


Ton of flack how? The idea that someone experienced 'shaking and almost vomiting' and 'I had to run' because he saw someone selling Nazi crap at a flea market and that we somehow have to do something about it is ridiculous.

I understand Sew’s point about compassion, but there’s a difference between having compassion and being an enabler. Careful trying to portray Jesus as gathering everyone in a circle, patting their heads and saying ‘it will all be okay, just sit in this little circle with me’.

Jesus had compassion for the woman about to be stoned and stopped that, but he also told her to stop being a freaking sleeper. Jesus had compassion for the Pharisee sneaking in the middle of the night to ask him questions, but also blasted him with ‘you are a teacher of Israel, but don’t understand this!?”  Jesus called the religious leaders of the day a ‘brood of vipers who won’t escape the pits of hell’. Jesus used a whip on the moneychangers.

Jesus said “make no mistake, I didn’t not come to unite, but to divide. I’ve come to turn a father against his daughter, a mother against her son.”

I think perhaps a modern day Jesus would have grabbed this guy by the collar, shook him and told him to grow some balls and face reality. I doubt he would have counseled him to run like a crybaby to the police.
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Reply #20 - 07/13/15 at 07:59:33
 
I think perhaps a modern day Jesus would have took the seller and the other guy to visit the Holocaust museum....
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Reply #21 - 07/13/15 at 08:07:51
 
Webster,.. I thank you for the tempered response... (I know you would have loved to stomp my *** with that one).... Grin...

...and, I am admittedly defending a real lightweight here.
If this guy was genuinely that traumatized by the sight of this stuff, he needs a little more weight in his loafers.

My thinking was more broad than this specific person.
There are people that still bear the scars of this war, and lost many members of their family.  And, I think it is right to condemn those that would make fashion of the symbols that represent such evil.

There are things that are legal, that still aren't morally right.
I don't understand the kind of person that would think cheap Chinese copies of these symbols of hate are cool...

We don't have to have to walk on eggshells to not offend anyone, but we conversely should not pussyfoot around the purveyors of hate either.
Thus this quote....
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

+1 Hovis... Cool...

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Reply #22 - 07/13/15 at 08:12:59
 
Big clue here about people's perception, or more to point, motivation....
If any of us think we can pigeonhole Jesus, we think waaaaaaaay too much ourself.
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Reply #23 - 07/13/15 at 08:17:22
 
Nice sideslap Dawg... Grin...

If you don't interpret teachings,... what's the point of having them?...

One man's "pigeonhole" is another man's gospel...
I guess you think you know better... Waaaaaaaay better...Roll Eyes...
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Reply #24 - 07/13/15 at 08:50:20
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/13/15 at 08:07:51:
Thus this quote....
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

The Ancient Egyptians would eradicate a pharaoh by chiseling out his name no matter where it existed.
Recently, ISIS blew up some ancient statues because they were in conflict to their believes.
We teach history to remember these things happened, slavery, civil war, holocaust, genocide and much, much more.  And there are many museums, and reenactments to bring history to life.  

If one forgets history, you are doomed to relive it.  Never forget.
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Reply #25 - 07/13/15 at 08:57:38
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/13/15 at 08:07:51:
Webster,.. I thank you for the tempered response... (I know you would have loved to stomp my *** with that one).... Grin...

...and, I am admittedly defending a real lightweight here.
If this guy was genuinely that traumatized by the sight of this stuff, he needs a little more weight in his loafers.

My thinking was more broad than this specific person.
There are people that still bear the scars of this war, and lost many members of their family.  And, I think it is right to condemn those that would make fashion of the symbols that represent such evil.

There are things that are legal, that still aren't morally right.
I don't understand the kind of person that would think cheap Chinese copies of these symbols of hate are cool...

We don't have to have to walk on eggshells to not offend anyone, but we conversely should not pussyfoot around the purveyors of hate either.
Thus this quote....
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

+1 Hovis... Cool...

Peace,
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They are called "War Trophies"



These two helmets may seem acceptable trophies... but skulls ? Courtesy of USMC in the Pacific theater.




"Skull on a Tank" was taken by Ralph Morse in Feb, 1943. It shows a head of a Japanese soldier propped up on a disabled tank.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/507992032942452181/

So it's all a matter of perception... and of education...

Normal people don't do this...

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http://flashbak.com/24-classic-photos-i-found-from-december-1965-6500/
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Reply #26 - 07/13/15 at 09:01:33
 
Well,.. that was gross... Huh...
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Reply #27 - 07/13/15 at 09:14:25
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/13/15 at 07:24:58:
Ton of flack how?


Some guy:
There are all kinds of things, like the Westboro Baptist Church making a scene at veteran's funerals, that are distasteful, but not illegal.

Being a strong supporter of freedom of speech, you undoubtedly support the Westboro Baptist Church folks the same as you support the Confederate Flag/nazi folks.

Me:
I don't have to support anyone to not stomp my foot and cry like a 3 year old.

a logical human being:
actually westboro could be illegal, if they trespass, or violate their permit, which they do at times

the person who filed the complaint in this case is just an idiot, walk away if its legal, police have better things to do

Someone else:

Quote:
...cry like a 3 year old.

...or Holocaust survivor.

Me, again:
He claims his grandmother was.
He, himself, was not.

My grandfather fought in WW2. I don't hate Germans.

Someone I do not agree with at all:
who was talking about hating germans?

Me, again:
I did. I used it to make a connection.
This cry baby has two generations insulating him from these atrocities, as do I.
If you wanted to make another connection you could even tie it to slavery. Why must reparations be made now for atrocities committed a hundred years ago?

Or are you asking why I picked Germans? Because they were the enemy during WW2.

This is the same someone else from above:
How do you get insulated from Holocaust atrocities ? It's been two generations so it's just no big deal anymore ?

Anyway...
"Unless something violates state or federal law, there’s no jurisdiction for government to do anything. "

Really not sure what your gripe is.

Me, trying to just end it:
My whole gripe is that this guy is a big baby.

I miss the days when men were men.

The guy I do not agree with:
your grandfather was fighting nazis, not germans. that "cry baby" wasn't hating on germans, it was about nazi memorabilia. that "cry baby" is much closer to the events of ww2 than you are, you should realize that it's not just a number of generations that matters... never mind, you'll never be able to comprehend that.

Someone intelligent:
Actually, most likely people's grandfathers were fighting Germans, not Nazis. i hate revisionist history. Most German forces were not nazi-heavy. Through the ranks and many officers were not Nazis. The German Wehrmacht did what they said they would do, as they always have and they kept the promises they made, even if those promises were to the wrong people. To say we fought the Nazis is to miss the lesson; an entire people followed the Nazis to ruin because of promises they made to build a better society where everybody got. National SOCIALISM.... Hmmm. Socialism. Nazism. Social isms....

Yep, those are bad, aren't they?


There is nothing wrong with collecting war memorabilia. These were trophies taken by victorious allied troops. And people do have genuine historical interest. Once again because some misguided people use a swastika doesn't make a memorabilia collector bad.

Oh, and why Am I sensitive? My grandfather was a German Officer, and my Grandmother was Jewish.

Someone else I regard highly:
You know the real irony here? All the hoop-la surrounding war memorabilia and I'll be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts nobody would bat an eye if the same vendor had Japanese artifacts on the table....

For whatever reason, our revisionist historians want to push the notion that All Germans were Nazis and they were responsible for unspeakable atrocities. Yet those same revisionists completely ignore what the Japanese did to the Chinese, Burmese, Koreans, Manchurians and any of the other conquered people in the South Pacific. Does the Rape of Nanking ring a bell with anybody? I guess not.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

The uninformed among us automatically associate the Confederate Battle Flag and the Flag of the Nazi party with hate. But show them a flag with the Rising Sun on it and they are completely clueless about what happened under that banner of hate....

logical human being again:
lets not forget what WE did to people in the us who looked asian during ww2

regard highly guy again:
Ah, yes. The internment camps for anyone who might sympathize with the Japanese homeland.... All done under the racist, hateful banner of the United States flag... We should ban it....

Repeat guy:
How many places in the United States has the Rising Sun been hoisted in honor on State property ?

And your going to equate the rape of Nanking with an internment camp ? Get real.

Guy I never agree with:
demagoguery at its finest

Highly regarded guy:
From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered in excess of 10,000,000 people, most of which were more than 6,000,000 Chinese but include also Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.

By contrast, the Nazis killed an estimated 16,000,000 people of which about 6 million were Jews.

So, yes. We ARE comparing the Nazi atrocities to the Japanese atrocities. We ARE comparing the Nazi genocide to the Japanese genocide. Yet revisionists such as yourself turn a deliberate blind eye to what happened in the Far East.

New guy to the thread:
"WE" did no such thing. The Japanese were interred by executive order. A democrat president with a pen and a phone.
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Reply #28 - 07/13/15 at 09:56:16
 
raydawg wrote on 07/13/15 at 08:12:59:
Big clue here about people's perception, or more to point, motivation....
If any of us think we can pigeonhole Jesus, we think waaaaaaaay too much ourself.


I don't know about that dog, I think I can pigeonhole Jesus Christ almost perfectly. In fact, I think he pigeonholes himself. I don't think there's a lot of room for ambiguity when he comes to Jesus, at least there shouldn't be.
I think it's pretty clear where he stands on most any topic. Now you might not like it, my guess is liberals dislike the real Jesus 95% of the time and conservatives probably dislike the real Jesus 95% of the time also!  I know I do.
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Reply #29 - 07/13/15 at 10:23:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/13/15 at 09:56:16:
Now you might not like it, my guess is liberals dislike the real Jesus 95% of the time and conservatives probably dislike the real Jesus 95% of the time also!  I know I do.

You're not Christian?...
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