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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2217 Spring, Texas Gender:	10 best cruisers 07/02/15 at 10:38:01 Looky what I saw today. Take a look at number 10. http://www.allmotornews.com/10-best-cruiser-motorcycles/
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #1 - 07/02/15 at 11:30:17 Nice of them to start out with the worst and work up to the very best.
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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1163 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #2 - 07/02/15 at 13:02:29 The Ducati Diavel is a cruiser? And the Star VMAX? I dunno
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2217 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #3 - 07/02/15 at 13:49:07 I like your point of view Versy.
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Sonny Full Member Offline DeSoto, TX Posts: 224 Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #4 - 07/02/15 at 14:29:43 The new '15 Indian Scout is getting many good reviews and is bugging me, though I am safe, not having $11 or $12K lying around. And of course having something less than $1K in my '87 Salvage and feeling happy as it is...
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2217 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #5 - 07/02/15 at 16:30:58 I agree with you Sonny. That 2015 Indian Scout is one nice bike. But yeah, that's a lot of money.
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Reply #6 - 07/02/15 at 17:06:09

No doubt about it. Indians aren't cheap, and, you know, first year for a ground up new design you are paying full price to do their product testing for them. There will be bugs and recalls like with any clean sheet of paper new scooter.

Whereas, the Savage is in year what, 29, unchanged except for the bar, seat and a 5th cog... and they never *did* fix the things that we all have to fix on our own. They just left the flaws in to give it character I guess... but the timing chain tensioner problem is not amusing, and there's no excuse for them leaving that costly weakness.

One of these days I am going to write Suzuki and beg them to take the original CAD drawings and up every dimension 15% to make an 800cc on a bigger, longer frame. A Super Savage. And I am going to list the mods and fixes devised on this forum and tell em to give us a break and incorporate them in the S.S..

I'm sure they'll jump right on that...

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #7 - 07/02/15 at 20:13:37 an 800CC single cruiser? No thanks, 650 is pretty much the limit for one jug, IMO
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2217 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #8 - 07/02/15 at 20:21:46 That actually sounds like a pretty good idea there Sonny.
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Reply #9 - 07/02/15 at 21:07:19

Art Webb wrote on 07/02/15 at 20:13:37:

an 800CC single cruiser?
No thanks, 650 is pretty much the limit for one jug, IMO

You might be right, Art. If you just bored/stroked the existing engine to 800cc, if you even could, yes for sure it would be a rough, hot running, short-lived mill. But I don't know, if the ratio of piston weight to counterbalancer, the crank, starter motor, valves, carb and everything else went up in proportional size it should work like the 650. Whether the increase in performance would be worth the high cost of making new casting and milling tools is hard to say. But it's a new era now, with digital design and mfg robotics... not as hard as it was in the '80s when the existing Savage tooling was made.

I am way tall for Savages -- 6'3". If I could have one a foot longer, a couple inches taller at the seat, with more spread out ergonomics and more horses, and an exhaust note about a half octave lower, I would love it. I would pay extra for it.

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #10 - 07/02/15 at 21:53:16 you forgot something: lighting off that huge air / fuel charge in the ginourmous combustion chamber. that would be one awesome sfterfire on shut down I'm with you on the size, I find the bike cramped at 6 feet even with a fairly short inseam, I'm just not sure an extra 150 cubes is a practical possibility in an air cooled single
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #11 - 07/02/15 at 23:29:23 I'm glad to know the S40/Savage is comfortable and doesn't rivet your ass?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #12 - 07/03/15 at 07:04:10 What a random collection... ...
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: 10 best cruisers Reply #13 - 07/03/15 at 07:18:23 As Tocsik said, the Ducati and the V-Max aren't really cruisers. The Triumph Speedmaster and the Thunderbird (especially) should be there, somewhere (but then again, I'm biased!)
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Re: 10 best cruisers
Reply #14 - 07/03/15 at 09:45:44

Art Webb wrote on 07/02/15 at 20:13:37:

an 800CC single cruiser?
No thanks, 650 is pretty much the limit for one jug, IMO

I don' t believe you would get an increase in performance....except maybe low end torque if you just scaled everything up. The length of crankshaft stroke would increase and the piston speed that would most likely reduce the rpm that was possible. Triumph makes some big 1,600 cc twins - but they are cruiser/touring bikes and most likely not very fast.

Ducati....makes big displacement cylinders work by keeping the stroke short and making the piston big.

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